I agree that's not what I was getting at with that statment, I'm sorry if it came out that way. I'm also well aware that the brands that harmond owns still make a quality product. I'm helping a friend install an all JBL system in his car next summer, their components all seem quite respectable. Hell the Ininfity kappa 5 was one of the amps I was originaly looking. The only reason it lost out was that the Alpha matched and in somecases bested it's specs and was about the same price give or take $10-$20 bucks.