I'm looking for someone to have a conversation with

[Chevyaudio 5,000+ posts]

didnt try to be an *******, its just thats it 4 fvcking oclock in the morning, leave the intelectual shit for later in the day.

 

[marleyskater420 5,000+ posts]

didnt try to be an *******, its just thats it 4 fvcking oclock in the morning, leave the intelectual shit for later in the day.

ah, let me know you intend to post later. Otherwise I assume you just posted that you could have posted, and will just never post.

 

[KngOfThePkngLot 5,000+ posts]

well...not sure if you seen it or not but that guy "kngofthepknglot" had some extremely brilliant answers for you:laugh:

 

[marleyskater420 5,000+ posts]

well...not sure if you seen it or not but that guy "kngofthepknglot" had some extremely brilliant answers for you:laugh:

I know exactly how hard you were laughing when you wrote that.

 

[KngOfThePkngLot 5,000+ posts]

I know exactly how hard you were laughing when you wrote that.

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[Prowler573 5,000+ posts]

Have you ever heard of a society called the Yanamamo?

Nope, but I'm up for learning somethng new pretty much anytime. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Or studied any other indian(not neccessarily american) cultures ever? Specifically the roles of homosexuals in those tribes/groups of people/ societies.

The only Indian culture of any kind that I have ever had anything resembling an in-depth look at would be the Caddo Indians which lived in what is now NW Louisiana, SW Arkansas, SE Oklahoma, and NE Texas. The reason being is that my maternal grandfather (Mom's dad) was 100% Native American, specifically Caddo. I cannot say that I have ever studied the presence of homsexuality and its role in their society, however, as it isn't something that ever occured to me.

Do you agree that "gender" is learned? That is to say, we "learn" to become a boy or girl.

To an extent. Most peoples' parents will guide a son or a daughter towards different pursuits based on gender. There are different expectations attached to males than there are on females and vice versa. Like every rule, though, it has its exceptions. There are always going to be girls who are tomboys and boys that have tendencies towards all things "prissy." It's an inescapable fact of life.

People "teach" us through socialized learning. Do you agree that race/gender are products of what our society has created?

. No and no. Race is a creation of genetics rather than an ideology. Whites, Blacks, Asians, Latinos, whatever - they simply are what they are because of how they were born as opposed to something someone else simply thought up.

Back when whites needed the power, they created what "the black man" should look like, and tried to create "races" of people, publishing "what the negro ear looks like" and bullshit like that, to try to create this idea of different races of people

See above.

when in reality, most white people have 1/24th drop of blood in them, as opposed to the 1/32nd drop of blood at the time such laws were implimented. What I am saying is that, white people basically created the idea of a different race of people, so that they could make other white people feel superior, simply because they are black, and that the laws used to hold black people down (1/32nd law) - white people were actually more "black" than they thought, which proves what scientists have been saying- that people are more closely linked that we think.

I have no clue what you'te talking about with the 1/24th and 1/32nd. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif As far as the rest of that goes the existence of bigotry or "racism" isn't synonymous with actually 'creating' races out of a mere contemplation.

Did you know that as simple DNA as flys have, they are 10x more similar(related) that we are, on a dna level?

No, I didn't.

We'll start there.
I suppose whoever can answer that the best will show who Ill finish the convo with. Not to "weed out" people, but just point me in the direction of the person who can help me the most.

I'm not trying to win a prize or anything //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif That's just the first thing that came to mind by way of response to each.

 

[Acidburn 5,000+ posts]

Tyler, talk to me sometime on AIM and i'll tell you about an interesting experiment involving gender identities

 

[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

Let me guess....someone is taking Sociology...

 

[adio 5,000+ posts]

marley let me know wassup

http://forums.caraudio.com/vb/showthread.php?t=133136&highlight=evolution

 

[marleyskater420 5,000+ posts]

Let me guess....someone is taking Sociology...

This has nothing to do with socio.

If anything, it is Anthro/Psych/Philo/E.S. related.

Yes, I take Sociology, but that has had no effect on why I am looking for someone to talk to.

 

[zane 10+ year member]

This has nothing to do with socio.
If anything, it is Anthro/Psych/Philo/E.S. related.

Yes, I take Sociology, but that has had no effect on why I am looking for someone to talk to.

I'll be hit or miss for quite a while now.

Don't know what to tell you.

Either way, I've always been the type that can retain strong personal belief's or faith, and still look at other points of view in a non biased fashion.

Except Philosophy. I bloody hate it. In my view, Philosophy is the biggest waste of time I've ever experienced. People sitting about questioning everything, never forming any solid conclusions, and merely talking themselves into a circle of eventual and quite litteral insanity. I mean, it's ok to question and theorize, but some people simply have too much time on their hands......

You want the Psychology, Religion, etc, etc. I can do that.

If you really want a different angle on your questions, consider this:

Everything is inherantly psychological on a personal level; relating to the abundance of alternate reactions to the circumstances and environment.

or to put it in a more simplistic form:

There is no norm. It is merely an illusion fabricated to comfort humans from the different realities they can not yet grasp.

Like I said, I'll be hit or miss for quite a while now. But if our paths cross at some point, I'd be glad to discuss things a little further.

Oh yeah,

Yer car is still SLOW! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Take it easy,

-zane

 

[Hundreth 10+ year member]

Everything is inherantly psychological on a personal level; relating to the abundance of alternate reactions to the circumstances and environment.

or to put it in a more simplistic form:

There is no norm. It is merely an illusion fabricated to comfort humans from the different realities they can not yet grasp.

LOL yet you hate Philosophy. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif

Some food for thought marley, Socrates was the one who did the questioning... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

I think you need to ask the right questions and be a little more focused in your intent. You are jumping from religion, to social norms, to history. Take one at a time and slow down. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/cool.gif.3bcaf8f141236c00f8044d07150e34f7.gif

 

[saywhat? 5,000+ posts]

just so you guys know....religion is a joke. no proof all faith.

 

[zane 10+ year member]

just so you guys know....religion is a joke. no proof all faith.

That's about the most ignorant statement I've heard on this subject.

The natural response to your "great observation" is:

Evolution is a joke. Just a bunch of wild theories from ordinary people in white lab coats. Ordinary people just as capable of error as you and I. No proof.

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The truth, both religion and evolution can fit the obvious facts. It's up to you to decide which you have more faith in.

 

[rocky 59 5,000+ posts]

marley if you still wanna talk my msn is-tonysdarks10@aol.com, i went thourgh 2 college courses of religion, and explaintion of the bible. ive thought of the same thing my self so if you want to msn me whenever