how do these guts stack up?

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

How is it considered refurbished if it is getting new parts that were never in the design plan of the amp in the first place?
I would consider that repaired to working order and not refurbished.

The caps, fuse lines, transformers, and electro rods will all be placed with new cheap parts. It will for sure make the amp less efficient then its original specs due to the parts used previously being sourced anymore.

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how do you know they wont upgrade the parts?

 

[los33 10+ year member]

how do you know they wont upgrade the parts?

Upgrade is not as exact as you would hope.

Components aka internals were made tougher pre-00.

Current components can be compared, but it all depends on source being used. Which it is known now companies source cheaper to lower costs.

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[Tahoe12]

How is it considered refurbished if it is getting new parts that were never in the design plan of the amp in the first place?
I would consider that repaired to working order and not refurbished.

The caps, fuse lines, transformers, and electro rods will all be placed with new cheap parts. It will for sure make the amp less efficient then its original specs due to the parts used previously being sourced anymore.

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*sigh* ive tried being polite, but your continuous nonsense is getting tiring. its being sent to the place rockford recommended, which is a repair shop that specializes in old school amps, and as a matter of fact, 3 of the employees that work there were rockford engineers who helped design the amp originally. it will be repaired with oem or better parts. and once again (how many times must I point this out) THE AMP WORKS. IT DOESNT "NEED" REPAIRED (although, with the mentioned damage, it is running on barrowed time.) you really have NO idea what youre talking about, which seems par for the course with you.

 

[Tahoe12]

I really feel like, at this point, you're TRYING to post the stupidest sh1t possible, in the hopes of blindly making a valid point.. which has yet to happen.

 

[Tahoe12]

all of this is especially ironic, given many members here insistence that its wiser to purchase new (which wasnt even related to the original topic or purppse of this thead). which is it? is it impossible to repair correctly, due to new parts being lower quality, or is a new amp not worth it due to inferior parts. which is what would be in your sq amp, or ampere

 

[los33 10+ year member]

I really feel like, at this point, you're TRYING to post the stupidest sh1t possible, in the hopes of blindly making a valid point.. which has yet to happen.

If that was the case then i would have stopped completely at this moment and said something worth while.

Unfortunately your thread has become the pigment of my boredom. You sir unfortunately are not as wise or knowledgeable to even mess with from where you want to stand at.

If you knew as much as you try to make yourself seem like you know, you would know I'm just here to continue to antagonize you.

You have no valid points, nor do you have the mentality to answer my questions. Do you really expect me to sit down and shut up because you state your amp is being sent to an "oem repair shop".

Do you honestly make yourself believe because they know the design they will use the same parts???

Come on bro i am just messing with you because you clearly do not know shiit about how amps work or how they are repaired.

You clearly do not know about o/s amps either other then what came off the manual.

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[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

Upgrade is not as exact as you would hope.
Components aka internals were made tougher pre-00.

Current components can be compared, but it all depends on source being used. Which it is known now companies source cheaper to lower costs.

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FYI i listed some very high-end transistors just now. the parts are every-bit as good if not better than 2000. the new to-247s are capable of 300 per transistor and are still very reliable more so than any transistor made in 2000 and the transistors in 2000 couldnt do the power the transistors can now. and they actually have higher switching frequency capabilities as well..
very few companies use the TO-247s.

 

[los33 10+ year member]

all of this is especially ironic, given many members here insistence that its wiser to purchase new (which wasnt even related to the original topic or purppse of this thead). which is it? is it impossible to repair correctly, due to new parts being lower quality, or is a new amp not worth it due to inferior parts. which is what would be in your sq amp, or ampere

O/s amps are better quality as you know.

Its one of those if it works then use it till it dies.

At the point of death then repair it.

Quality goes out the door when it is repaired. Current age amps come and go so quality is varied. Typically if an amp is not abused it will last long, but members here live to abuse amps for comps and demoing.

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[wew lad 5,000+ posts]

i hope those two transistors aren't the only two you know about when discussing amplifier design

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

Seems to me that if you threw 200$ into a repair you'd be better off than with anything you could buy new for the same money you'd have into it.

That was like the last good RF amps before a long line of crap. Nice find, OP.

 

[Boomin_tahoe 5,000+ posts]

If it works, no reason, to me, to get it refurb'ed. Why get a working amp refurbed?

But if it doesn't work I'd say get it fixed or whatever. What is the initial goals in this ordeal? Not reading 6 pages of BS.

 

[Tahoe12]

Seems to me that if you threw 200$ into a repair you'd be better off than with anything you could buy new for the same money you'd have into it.
That was like the last good RF amps before a long line of crap. Nice find, OP.

thank you. ive paid for, and boxed up the amp for shipping!

 

[Tahoe12]

If that was the case then i would have stopped completely at this moment and said something worth while.
Unfortunately your thread has become the pigment of my boredom. You sir unfortunately are not as wise or knowledgeable to even mess with from where you want to stand at.

If you knew as much as you try to make yourself seem like you know, you would know I'm just here to continue to antagonize you.

You have no valid points, nor do you have the mentality to answer my questions. Do you really expect me to sit down and shut up because you state your amp is being sent to an "oem repair shop".

Do you honestly make yourself believe because they know the design they will use the same parts???

Come on bro i am just messing with you because you clearly do not know shiit about how amps work or how they are repaired.

You clearly do not know about o/s amps either other then what came off the manual.

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the fact that you said "pigment of my boredom" explains pretty much all that needs explained about you, and your worth to the discussion at hand. as ive freely admitted I know very little about amp construction (as ive said several times). I am, however, very good at shelling out cash to people who are, in the interest of a proper refurb. babbling your pathetic nonsense does not effect me, nor will it effect my decisions as to how to proceed here.

 

[tc300 10+ year member]

no way that amp will sell for more than 150-200..

you havent been into car audio very long then... google this power series amp

 

[whitedragon551 5,000+ posts]

If it works, no reason, to me, to get it refurb'ed. Why get a working amp refurbed?
But if it doesn't work I'd say get it fixed or whatever. What is the initial goals in this ordeal? Not reading 6 pages of BS.

Over time caps can leak. Its worth having checked out. If its used and a cap needs replaced it could possibly take out sections that cost far more than just getting it checked out would. Its a safe investment for peace of mind especially with a good quality amp