How do I hook up speakers/tweeters without a crossover?

[sjv13 10+ year member]

I'm running a pair of the Focal IS 165 comps. These have integrated crossovers somehow, so there is no crossover box needed. I am running them off the Alpine KTP-445, so there was no need for me to figure out how to wire them to a "real amp" before. Now I have a 4 channel on the way, and need to figure out how this is going to work.

Here is what I have to connect: amp, woofers, tweeters.

There is no crossover involved, so I'm not really sure how I get it down to two wires (+/-) from four (woofer +/- and tweeter +/-).

Any information on how to do this would be great!

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[sjv13 10+ year member]

Does no one really have an answer to help me out?

 

[mylows10 5,000+ posts]

use them on the hight pass filter only

 

[zako 10+ year member]

Just hook them up the same way they're running right now on the Alpine amp.

 

[ewadz3006 10+ year member]

Troll?

 

[sjv13 10+ year member]

Just hook them up the same way they're running right now on the Alpine amp.

But that's the thing. I don't know what's going on with the Alpine amp because it just uses a wiring harness. Do you think I can just wire the positives of the woofers and tweeters together and the negatives of them together? Just by splicing?

Troll?

No, I'm really not. I've never wired a "real" 4 channel amp before and there is no manual for the Focals, and I can't find any information online any where about how people have hooked them up to an amp before.

 

[>>SQL<< 10+ year member]

you are missing the crossovers, you need them

There are no magical built in crossovers

 

[ewadz3006 10+ year member]

[quote name='>>SQL

There are no magical built in crossovers[/quote']

this... you need the crossovers. do a google image search and you will see what they look like. it has a input + &- (from amp) and a woofer output and a tweeter output. there is one of these for the left and one for the right speakers.

 

[>>SQL<< 10+ year member]

you are missing these

 

[Sonic. 10+ year member]

Each woofer and each tweeter has an integrated 6 dB/octave crossover, hence they can be connected one per channel, as stated above, use them on hpf.

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-xVNn83tgISy/p_091IS165/Focal-Integration-IS-165.html#details-tab

 

[sjv13 10+ year member]

[quote name='>>SQL

There are no magical built in crossovers[/quote']

That's actually I think somehow there are. Just look at this. It's part of the reason I bought them.

Focal Integration IS 165 6-3/4" component speaker system at Crutchfield.com

 

[richericks 10+ year member]

Well, if no crossover is needed, run the Front RCA from your HU to the amp. At the amp end put a 'Y' splitter on each RCA. Plug the left channel RCAs into channel 1 & 3 on the amp, and the right RCA channel into channel 2 & 4. From the output side of the amp, run channel 1 to the left tweeter, run channel 2 to the right tweeter, channel 3 to the left mid, and channel 4 to the right mid. That keeps your tweeters on one gain and your mids on another, so you can dial them in independently. Although, it might be helpful to know which 4 channel amp is on the way (the Polk in your sig?).

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[sjv13 10+ year member]

Well, if no crossover is needed, run the Front RCA from your HU to the amp. At the amp end put a 'Y' splitter on each RCA. Plug the left channel RCAs into channel 1 & 3 on the amp, and the right RCA channel into channel 2 & 4. From the output side of the amp, run channel 1 to the left tweeter, run channel 2 to the right tweeter, channel 3 to the left mid, and channel 4 to the right mid. That keeps your tweeters on one gain and your mids on another, so you can dial them in independently. Although, it might be helpful to know which 4 channel amp is on the way (the Polk in your sig?).
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Yes. It's the one in my sig. That might work. But I'm gonna try to see if I can contact Focal about it and see what they'd recommend.

 

[sjv13 10+ year member]

[quote=>>SQL

*SNIP*

I know what crossovers are... I'm just not sure how to hook up my speakers to a 4 channel because they somehow don't use one. That is a selling point of the "Integration" line of speakers from Focal.

 

[>>SQL<< 10+ year member]

ok buddy - you are right.

Your speakers have built in 6db crossovers on them.

What is it you want to do? Me personally I would run the tweeters from 2 channels of the 4 channel amp and the mid woofers on the other 2 channels.