have aq 3500 and i want to use as little space as possible and be Loud and low..

[helotaxi 5,000+ posts]

The most common type is when you run a crap load of power to a sub and heat the coil up, raising the resistance and thus the impedance of the sub, lowering the power that the amp can deliver. The other type is because of the weakening of the sub motor as the coil moves out of the gap leaving less wire in the magnetic field.

 

[TrlcKed_OuT 10+ year member]

well thats why i was looking for subs that could handle it daily no problem....i just thought a single "super" 10'' would be fun...

 

[helotaxi 5,000+ posts]

They don't exist. You can just keep turning it up and at some point it will just stop getting louder. You'll keep dumping more power into it and it won't get any louder, just hotter.

 

[TrlcKed_OuT 10+ year member]

so your saying that no single sub setup can take 3500watts daily??

 

[helotaxi 5,000+ posts]

You might find a sub that could "take" it but it won't get any louder to the ear on 3500w than it would have on 1000 or less.

 

[TrlcKed_OuT 10+ year member]

ok i am in no way trying to be a jackass or smart *** hear but your saying that say a any size fi BLT fully loaded will sound the same givin 1000watts compared to 3500 watts? i really dont understand that....

 

[T3mpest 10+ year member]

Well 1000 watts to 3500 is only about 4db's of increase assuming no compression. Odds are power compression will take at least 1-2db's off that so yeah, 2dbs's is all your gaining over a 1000 watt system.

 

[TrlcKed_OuT 10+ year member]

ok so is what you guys are getting at is that say 4 subs compared to 1 givin the same power to both setups...whether either is louder than the other the 4 will feel/sound louder due to more cone area and more air moving??

 

[helotaxi 5,000+ posts]

The benefit isn't just having more cone area (though that is a BIG benefit). The other benefit is that you've got multile motors and suspensions that you're spreading the power across and eliminating a lot of the power compression issues.

You're thinking in terms of the SPL lanes where you apply power for a vey short burst in most instances and at a single freq. With a daily dirven setup, you're looking at applying the power over long periods of time and across the full range of frequencies. The heat builds up quickly and the sub will actually get quieter the longer you continuously play it. If you're looking for 0.1s on the meter, a burp with a single sub is fine and it takes the cancellation issue that might cost you an inaudible amount of loss off the table. If you're looking for something that will pound over a long period of time, you want cone area and many motors.

I vote 16 8's for the "wow factor."

 

[Vossy 10+ year member]

16 8s

 

[Ronny 10+ year member]

Not really going to happen :/

 

[TrlcKed_OuT 10+ year member]

Ok well just say I decide I just go with 2 10" dc sound labs xl off say just recommend rms power should it be louder than my single 18 given the right box...at say 32-35hz...not a fart box?

 

[helotaxi 5,000+ posts]

It might be louder, but you won't know until you install it. You're giving up a lot of cone area.

 

[tc300 10+ year member]

im sorry this might sound noob but what exactly is power compression?

its like having a very very sexy girl and not knowing how to screw her GOOD!! LOL its a waste....

 

[tc300 10+ year member]

op if you not doing comps... dont waste ur time on a sinlge or 2 sub set-up.... with the power you HAVE and the daily loud pounding your looking for, do 4 10's