HARSH MUSIC

[Jimi77 5,000+ posts]

Didnt seem harsh. I’m running a 3 way active setup with silk dome tweeters and bamboo cone midranges. When I had my Alpine type R 2 way components I would get listener fatigue and ringing ears after loud listening.

Dire Straits keeps their recordings clean.

 

[SlugButter]

Dire Straits keeps their recordings clean.

For sure. So does Steely Dan and Pink Floyd

 

[audiobaun 5,000+ posts]

For sure. So does Steely Dan and Pink Floyd

I like alot of Pink Floyd music. Good tunes

 

[audiobaun 5,000+ posts]

For sure. So does Steely Dan and Pink Floyd

Quite a bit of Fleetwood Mac great music as well. I enjoy them also

 

[Jimi77 5,000+ posts]

For sure. So does Steely Dan and Pink Floyd

Two of my favorite bands.

 

[Bass Addict 10+ year member]

I like alot of Pink Floyd music. Good tunes

That bass line in the beginning of the song "Welcome to the machine" hums pretty good.

 

[dragon.breath 10+ year member]

Dire Straits is on of my go to bands for tuning a eq. The songs I use are Wild West End, Why Worry and Once upon a time in the West. Then I jump to Pink Floyd. ( I am a huge Floyd fan ) If I want to check it with a live recording I use David Gilmour live in Pompeii

 

[Bass Addict 10+ year member]

Quite a bit of Fleetwood Mac great music as well. I enjoy them also

Have them on the ipod thats hooked to my hu as well.

 

[HardofWhoring]

For me it's the over 20KHz. That's well beyond vocals, the realy tingy, tinny sounding cymbals and triangles. I can blast my music all day long as long as I take that out with the EQ or use the filters. Even moderate volumes with those doesn't take long for my ears to cringe.

That's my suggestion, filter out the over 20KHz and see if that helps.

 

[Jimi77 5,000+ posts]

For me it's the over 20KHz. That's well beyond vocals, the realy tingy, tinny sounding cymbals and triangles. I can blast my music all day long as long as I take that out with the EQ or use the filters. Even moderate volumes with those doesn't take long for my ears to cringe.

That's my suggestion, filter out the over 20KHz and see if that helps.

There is no need to filter over 20khz, which your can't really hear. Most people can't really hear over ~12-16khz, above ~12khz you more or less don't hear it but sense it and creates "airiness or openness" in a recording. Tinniness actually occurs around 1-2khz and is the first harmonics from a cymbal. Silibance is usually what listeners complain about, which occurs at 6khz and "piercing" occurs around 10kz. Below is an interactive chart that's been around for decades that one can use to EQ a system. It's actually intended for recording engineers, but works for car audio guys too.

Interactive Frequency Chart - Independent Recording Network

alexiy.nl

 

[HardofWhoring]

"For me it's the over 20KHz. That's well beyond vocals, the realy tingy, tinny sounding cymbals and triangles. I can blast my music all day long as long as I take that out with the EQ or use the filters. Even moderate volumes with those doesn't take long for my ears to cringe."

There is no need to filter over 20khz, which your can't really hear. Most people can't really hear over ~12-16khz, above ~12khz you more or less don't hear it but sense it and creates "airiness or openness" in a recording. Tinniness actually occurs around 1-2khz and is the first harmonics from a cymbal. Silibance is usually what listeners complain about, which occurs at 6khz and "piercing" occurs around 10kz. Below is an interactive chart that's been around for decades that one can use to EQ a system. It's actually intended for recording engineers, but works for car audio guys too.

Interactive Frequency Chart - Independent Recording Network

alexiy.nl

I've said that twice now, maybe 3 times. I looked at the EQ, and I have everything over 10KHz tapering off.

Most OLD people can't hear that high.

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

Most OLD people can't hear that high.

Most young people can't either. I took a few semesters of electronics classes back when I was 19 or 20 and we would hook up piezo drivers to a tone generator, start at 20K and dial down until people started looking around. Nobody was looking before 15K and that's mostly college age people.

On the Dire Straits topic, I have two different versions of Money for Nothing and one is recorded very poorly, just sounds a bit anemic. Then again, I pretty much only pirate music anymore so I can't really say whether it's the original mix or whatever rip I found.

 

[chillin 10+ year member]

What is your source for these songs? Spotify, prime, downloaded, etc? Any of these can make a difference.

 

[nelpastel]

A lot of older motown recordings are up and down...when I run that playlist I'm on the knob constantly it seems like

I agree

 

[nelpastel]

What is your source for these songs? Spotify, prime, downloaded, etc? Any of these can make a difference.

They are WAV files from original brand new CD's