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[jdawg90 10+ year member]

mosin nagant with some nice optics?

 

[thevic24 5,000+ posts]

The .270 is an excellent deer round!! Keep in mind that it is a 30.06 necked down to a 6.8mm.

The .270 can be hand loaded to much higher velocities safely and can be a good long range round.

The only thing really holding it back as a long range target round it the lack of target rounds.

An AR (5.56) can be a good mid sized game gun but your shot placement will need to be very good, specially on the longer shots.

IMO, check out the WSSM rounds in .223 and .243. My buddy's son uses a .243 WSSM in a bolt gun. It has been nothing but devastating on deer so far. (neat looking, fat cartridges!!)

As far as AR's go, you really can not beat the Bushmasters as far as lower priced Ar's go. Their quality is up there with the more $$$$$ AR's.

IF you do go with an AR for hunting, try and stick to the 20" barrels. The carbines (16") honestly loose too much velocity and punch.

 

[sam_b03 10+ year member]

Good info, but I will disagree with the classification of the .243 as only a good small game round.

I started out deer hunting with the old man's .222 Savage 340D. Outstanding groundhog rifle up to about 150 yards, but really not enough power for deer (though I killed a few!). He found a good deal on a Remington 760 GameMaster, which is the one I have hunted with for 30 years, now.

Good shot placement has allowed me to reach out and kill deer from 300 yards.

Def doesn't have the knock-down power of a 30-06, but I have never lost a deer that I had a clear shot on.

One option that I am surprised not to see talked about yet is the .270....very solid deer round.

Around here most people use the 243 for coyotes, bob cats, and a general vermin gun in the back glass of their feed truck. It and 22-250's are what a lot of kids start out with because the kick is pretty tame. The same way that 12gauge is more efficient but alot of kids start out with a 20 gauge or 410.

270's are a good round there are some many rounds that work I can't name them all.

Somebody mentioned the hand loads. If somebody is asking about a gun to shoot deer withon a car audio forum, I am guessing that they aren't hand loading.

I don't have an AR10 but I do have a PTR91. It's a 308 battle rifle. Not the most accurate with a 1.5ish MOA but is fun to shoot.

My brother picked up a Rugar M77 scout. Its is nice little gun. only chambered in a 308. I think it's a 16in barrel bolt action with a stripper magizine. It is a great pickup gun. You could get out the window with the quickness //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif.

 

[09civic 5,000+ posts]

80$ mosin nagant ftw.

 

[sam_b03 10+ year member]

Mosin's can work but I wouldn't waste the money to hunt with it. They are accurate but depending on the manufacture date they can be a real turd. Halfway through the war they were more worried about geting the guns out than caring if they operated. If you can get a pre-war gun they are much better. When they get hot they sweat cosmoline from the stock. they don't have the knock down power of the above mentioned calibers. As I mentioned, My cousins were able to shoot a buck 7 times and he ran off. They were hunting on my Dad's land. The neighbor found the carcass this summer. That buck ran over 1/4 mile.

If you are going to spend the money to get a hunting license and lease some land to hunt, you want a gun that will drop what you are shooting at.

 

[sam_b03 10+ year member]

80$ mosin nagant ftw.

your about 40% off bud's gun shop price who is about the cheapest around. Then add another$25+ for FFL charges.

 

[wenn_du_weinst 10+ year member]

I think 90% of you are missing the fact it won't be a hunting rifle. It will be a target rifle that gets used for hunting for small amounts of time.

 

[sam_b03 10+ year member]

I think 90% of you are missing the fact it won't be a hunting rifle. It will be a target rifle that gets used for hunting for small amounts of time.

I guess it depends on his definition of target shooting. A good bolt action with the a accurate caliber like a 30-06 or 308 is going to beat an AR everyday of the week. There is a reason my they used Remington 700's chamber in 308 for sniper rifles in Vietnam while the infantry carried M16's. The rounds cost quite abit more than a 556x39 or .223. I depends on how much he is going to shoot. It he is want to go to the range once a week or shoot 500+rounds a year or if a couple box is all he needs.

 

[wenn_du_weinst 10+ year member]

I guess it depends on his definition of target shooting. A good bolt action with the a accurate caliber like a 30-06 or 308 is going to beat an AR everyday of the week. There is a reason my they used Remington 700's chamber in 308 for sniper rifles in Vietnam while the infantry carried M16's. The rounds cost quite abit more than a 556x39 or .223. I depends on how much he is going to shoot. It he is want to go to the range once a week or shoot 500+rounds a year or if a couple box is all he needs.

I took it as point and shoot stuff. I guess I always forget there are longer ranges out there. I live in a place I can go to the farm and shoot when ever I want I don't have to deal with gun range bs.

 

[thevic24 5,000+ posts]

I took it as point and shoot stuff. I guess I always forget there are longer ranges out there. I live in a place I can go to the farm and shoot when ever I want I don't have to deal with gun range bs.

Me to....its nice to have 986 acres of fun time