cyclops and autotek 3000 are the same amp internally //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif at least according to john studley and mike stiers... I've only used the 4000.1 and don't think I'll be on team maxx for 07 //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif oh well... my fault