For the last time, PLEASE: clipping does NOT blow speakers/subwoofers

[BEAVER.989 10+ year member]

I give up. I'm not trying to argue, just learn. Please understand that this thread is a direct contradiction to what most of us have heard forever and a little hard to believe, that's all.

 

[mokedaddy 5,000+ posts]

No, not really. You just have to reduce your laziness when you explain to them the risks involved with clipping //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif People just get lazy and instead of actually explaining what is going on they say something along the lines of "Clipping will blow your sub", and then this lazy explanation gets passed on perpetuating the myth. And then people who learned this lazy explanation use it as a point of reference and in turn fall under the illusion that it's the distortion that causes the damage. And then once a month we have to have the discussion that distortion doesn't cause damage to speakers. And we have a big long 15+ page thread about distortion, clipping and power everybody learns a little something. But the cycle just continues because people are lazy.
It isn't "clipping" that is going to cause the damage, but the excessive power that results.....and that's the way it needs to be explained //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Well technically speaking its the heat from too much power that destroys the driver.

j/k //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif

Good read and he really is dead on. One more thing before we let this die

In the real world of idiots and retail, clipping, or the by-product of clipping, destroys way more drivers than it should.

 

[sonic purity 10+ year member]

Okay.
Send a 50w fully clipped signal to a true 500w RMS sub.

If clipping blows subs, then the sub should clearly be damaged.

Run the experiment. Report back with your findings. If the sub fails to blow, you owe me your faith. Squeak will be your God.

Agreed?

Dang thats harsh

 

[jdawg 5,000+ posts]

Okay.
Send a 50w fully clipped signal to a true 500w RMS sub.

If clipping blows subs, then the sub should clearly be damaged.

Run the experiment. Report back with your findings. If the sub fails to blow, you owe me your faith. Squeak will be your God.

Agreed?

ok, then wtf blows a speaker?

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

ok, then wtf blows a speaker?

POWER

 

[jdawg 5,000+ posts]

Im not bieng an ******* Im just trying to learn, in my 15 or so years in audio only a clipped signal has blown a speaker

 

[mokedaddy 5,000+ posts]

ok, then wtf blows a speaker?

TOO MUCH POWER. OVER TIME. WHICH RESULTS IN OVERHEATING. THERMAL FAILURE

For the sake of this conversation at least //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[jdawg 5,000+ posts]

well if you have a small amp and gains are maxed sending to a speaker it will never blow?

 

[DBfan187 5,000+ posts]

Jesus Christ!

Heat = Power for the love of god!

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

Im not bieng an ******* Im just trying to learn, in my 15 or so years in audio only a clipped signal has blown a speaker

No, the POWER of the signal blew the speaker. The POWER exceeded the power handling limits of the driver.

 

[mokedaddy 5,000+ posts]

Im not bieng an ******* Im just trying to learn, in my 15 or so years in audio only a clipped signal has blown a speaker

There is nothing wrong with trying to learn. These days with access to the internet its actually much easier to dispell these so called myths that we all grew up hearing. I think we can all agree there is a good deal of misinformation regarding car audio.

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

well if you have a small amp and gains are maxed sending to a speaker it will never blow?

If the POWER never exceeded the power handling limits of the driver then no, it would NEVER be damaged.

 

[jdawg 5,000+ posts]

so if i have a shitty jensen amp pushin a FI BTL the 100 watts will blow it cause of thermal overload?

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

so if i have a shitty jensen amp pushin a FI BTL the 100 watts will blow it cause of thermal overload?

Probably not, because the power output of the shitty 100w Jensen amp would likely never exceed the power handling limits of a BTL.

 

[jdawg 5,000+ posts]

Probably not, because the power output of the shitty 100w Jensen amp would likely never exceed the power handling limits of a BTL.

so what would blow it?