Ed's New Sub Vid

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

See, this is something i can respect. Like i said, in general (TCAB and ED) whatever happened in the past is the past to me. I wasnt around for that whole drama, so i cant say they had a good rep since they opened. I was clearly stating that as of right now, i like them. Thats it, disregarding the past. And with TCAB, in one of my previous post i clearly stated "that was messed up what he did".
So i am not here to promote ED, and telling everyone ED is the best. I would so choose a RE XXX over the 13Av.2, but for the money, i would go with ED. You have to admit, my attitude at first was neutral, i wasnt calling anyone names and "starting" sh1t. but then people had smart (***) things to say, so i went with it.

But for the record, i respect everyone to a certain degree, if you dont agree with me hey thats fine. We are all different, but when i start to get flamed for my honest opinion, then yeah, FLAME ON!!!!!! - Human Torch

As Ive said all along, if you are happy with your eD products, more power to you. But the good rep thing is going to take a good long while of people having positive experiences with the company again to turn around their bleak history in that regard.
It sounds like we have come to a point we can agree upon and move on. Finally.

Agreed....but how far does one's reputation follow a particular firm? If eD is turning things around (and I really don't know if they are or not), how long does it take for them to re-establish a positive reputation? For instance, some firms get over their heads in the beginning and things look bad and they misjudge a lot of items, but if they remain solvent and work through them, perhaps they can produce good, quality products.
How long does it take for you to trust them and what incentives or signals could they provide to indicate a change?

This isn't about eD, but more about customer sentiment.

I understand your point, but I believe that doesn't quite cover this situation. Not to beat a dead horse, but Ben and eD were caught red handed out and out lying, to make money, off you and me. That's not a business stumble along the way to building a successful and reputable business, that (imo) is a scammer getting busted doing what he does.
I was there, I read eD's website where it listed 'butyl rubber based' mat. I almost bought into, but I was skeptical. When I dug further, I found I would have been paying premium butyl rubber prices for what was actually the old inferior asphault mat. Then I see Ben personally make his excuses for it that range from the bizarre to the downright unbelievable. Only after being proven scientifically so as no doubt could be laid, that he was lying/wrong. What am I suppose to think?

I recently read a review of eD's new 120mil super duper deadening mat. Its advertised 6mil of foil and mylar layer is exgarrated. And when heat tested is shown to be made of (at least) inferior quality rubber than competing products. And now their new super duper "W7" killer subwoofer soon to be released, that looks *gasp* almost exactly like a W7 (where it counts). Again, what am I, what are we, suppose to think?

Seems like more of the same to me. *shrug*

But the same to you Flip, I wish no ill will on people who use eD products. We are all in this hobby together. I just hope the next time you look through the vast selection of excellent car audio products to make your next choice, you remember eD is merely one company out there, and one who has a rep.... well... you know. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Cheers

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

BTW, this is not a biased thing against eD. I use to be a big fan. Im from Iowa originally, they are from Iowa. They seemed like an up and coming American car audio company, what was not to like? But then the proverbial shit started hitting the fan and it was hard to ignore/deny/refute.

I'll praise a good company if I feel it is. But if its a bad one, I'll speak up too. Im not shy about telling people about the Kove Audio incident either for example.

 

[na_rsx 10+ year member]

As Ive said all along, if you are happy with your eD products, more power to you. But the good rep thing is going to take a good long while of people having positive experiences with the company again to turn around their bleak history in that regard.
It sounds like we have come to a point we can agree upon and move on. Finally.

Thats understandable, i know once you done harm and screwed people over, its hard to have trust in them again. Its like a relationship, its either you forgive them or forget them.

Your point i understand and respect, and its good that you respect mine. Now i can say we can move on, and start whoring up another thread......................j/k //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/cool.gif.3bcaf8f141236c00f8044d07150e34f7.gif

I finally uploaded some videos of my 13Ov.3, where can i post them at, is there a video section somewhere?

 

[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

No comments on Mr. Wiggins' quoted post?

Also, wanna know why I was banned on ICIX? Ben was spouting his normal horseshit, which I knew was false. I went over to Soundillusions.net, which used to be his sponsored forum, and took a direct quote that HE wrote on there, that completely countered the crap he was spewing. I did not type one word of my own- simply quoted his horseshit from ICIX, and followed with a quote of his from SIN...and I got banned.

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And I didn't have a problem waiting for a preorder...hell, I was on a few of them from eD. It's when I was flat-out lied to, to my face that bothered me.

 

[sundownz Pro Seller]

Interesting about the Tang-Band deal... I supposed ED will have some legal troubles when those patents go through.

 

[Railrocker 10+ year member]

Jesus this thread is still going.

I knew you liked forced sodimy but you cant **** the willing.

"Thank you sir may I have another?" //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

It's the other way around TB stole ED's original design, get your facts straight,

Wrong answer.

Somebody's facts aren't straight....and it isn't denim......

 

[delvryboy 5,000+ posts]

This is the main reason I don't post on this board, as Way too many people cannot get over crap theat happened 2-4 years ago, So you blew an A series flat cone 6 times due to running 2000 watts to a 1200 watt woofer, I wouldn't warranty you any more either.

I am far from a eD hater, in fact I have taken quite a beating here from defending them in the past. However, this statement is an outright lie....

 

[denim 5,000+ posts]

Wrong answer.
Somebody's facts aren't straight....and it isn't denim......

My moderating my be gay but my facts are straight. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[Eugenics 5,000+ posts]

been has gAIDS. contracted it from his harddrive

 

[Ninteens 10+ year member]

What an ED?//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/blackeye.gif.66a1670f5aaf7f406e783a63e3387dc5.gif

I've never dealt with them. And I don't plan to, it can't get any simpler than that!

 

[Pl8er 5,000+ posts]

What an ED?//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/blackeye.gif.66a1670f5aaf7f406e783a63e3387dc5.gif
I've never dealt with them. And I don't plan to, it can't get any simpler than that!

Baaa for me, could ya? I really have no problems with people who have had problems with eD and then speak out saying there problems and how they won't use them again. Seeing as you have NEVER delt with them, and are only going by Johnny-X's review of them on here, I deem you the moron/tool of the day. I have an ed amp and ed speakers. The amp ROCKS, the subs, not so much.

 

[Twistid 5,000+ posts]

Baaa for me, could ya? I really have no problems with people who have had problems with eD and then speak out saying there problems and how they won't use them again. Seeing as you have NEVER delt with them, and are only going by Johnny-X's review of them on here, I deem you the moron/tool of the day. I have an ed amp and ed speakers. The amp ROCKS, the subs, not so much.

ive never used sony xplod's... so im a moron too for going with my jugg/fi hybrid instead of some sony xplod's being how my decision was based solely on reviews ?

 

[Pl8er 5,000+ posts]

ive never used sony xplod's... so im a moron too for going with my jugg/fi hybrid instead of some sony xplod's being how my decision was based solely on reviews ?

No, your a moron because you have to join every topic just to fight. HA HA HA I'm J/K.

No, my point is that it's fine that the whole forum is pretty much against ed, but makes no sense to me that someone comes and says I've never used them and I'm never going to because someone they don't know told them not to.

I'm going to assume your a smart enough person, I've read some of your posts. So my assumption would be that you have at least "heard" sony xplods. You made an informed decision based on what you heard. Not what someone told you was the "best" and what everyone else said was the "worst".

If the person would have said "I heard ed, I think they sucked and everyone on here says the support is crap" I would have not even bothered to respond.

 

[Twistid 5,000+ posts]

ok i agree //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

your sig pic is neato burrito //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif