***Eclipse deck owners***

what im saying is that i think there is something wrong with your deck man. cause mine is instant. there is no waiting for the file to load. it may not be like light speed like a high powered computer, but its no more than 1 second at all.
Maybe "fast" MP3 tracking on disk is an upgrade on the Eclipse 8455 (from the 8445 that happened to be in stock at the time). If I knew that were the case, I would have easily dropped the extra dime and time to get that unit (while I wait for my Alpine to get back from repair).

I actually love my Eclipse deck, but there are some parts that bug the carp out of me. One of the big ones is how long it takes to get to the next MP3 track. If I were to recommend a deck to a friend, the Eclipse upper-end units would be there. I guess I'm a bit disgruntled that after all this time, computer technology has gone so far and gotten so inexpensive, but HU technology has taken a step back (apparently) yet the prices haven't really changed. I'll pay another $800 bones on an upgraded model of the Alpine CDA-7878 in a heartbeat, but they call it an F#1 status now, and charge $2500 ea. f that. Why can't they just give us the bennies along with the price-tag that technology allows?

 
Maybe "fast" MP3 tracking on disk is an upgrade on the Eclipse 8455 (from the 8445 that happened to be in stock at the time). If I knew that were the case, I would have easily dropped the extra dime and time to get that unit (while I wait for my Alpine to get back from repair).
I actually love my Eclipse deck, but there are some parts that bug the carp out of me. One of the big ones is how long it takes to get to the next MP3 track. If I were to recommend a deck to a friend, the Eclipse upper-end units would be there. I guess I'm a bit disgruntled that after all this time, computer technology has gone so far and gotten so inexpensive, but HU technology has taken a step back (apparently) yet the prices haven't really changed. I'll pay another $800 bones on an upgraded model of the Alpine CDA-7878 in a heartbeat, but they call it an F#1 status now, and charge $2500 ea. f that. Why can't they just give us the bennies along with the price-tag that technology allows?
fo shizzle

 
hey guys, i was messing with the bass and treble on my deck, and it really doesnt change much. as like the nonfade...
lol, welcome to the SQ world dude... it's weird to explain, but i was used to the Bass -5 to +5 of the old bottom line Pioneers/Sony cds before i bought my 9815, where, 0 would have no bass whatsoever, +1 would boom a little, +2 would boom too little and +3 would boom too much and +4 would distort the hell out of the speakers lol

you had whether no control of the bass or treble with that, or whether too much control with it (distortion)... i assume they worked +3db each plus or some crazy shit like that... i was trying to understand wtf was wrong with my alpine till i realize how MUCH it sounded better this way dude... never going back... not gonna get used to 2 band (Treble+Bass) EQ again, never, never... (well unless i have an external digital processor or the hu works better that way, i dunno)

btw for good bass, it's much better to adjust the gains of the amplifier than to equalize with these settings that will mess also with the bass from all the speakers thus making your comps sound like funky pups, even if you cut them too high...

this is the way it's supposed to be dude, and you will get used soon and won't regret //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

edit: ROFL just noticed you came from a 9855, making my whole post pointless =D

 
Slaugh, we just spent two months attepting to explain how preout voltage works and your giving advice on gains.

HiAmplidude, how are you burning your mp3 disks. Do you place alot of subfolders, jpegs, regular audio on your disk? All of these will slow down the speed your deck reads the files. Try to avoid placing alot of subfolders on the disk. I don't use winamp, so I can't comment on there software. I use nero and make one folder for each artist. Inside of the artist folder is the album folder. From there, I have the album. If you burn your disk in this manor, with three folders deep, and still have a slow response then check out a demo unit. Try your disk on it and see if you do have a poor deck. I own the 8455 and the only slow time I have is when it first reads a disk for about 2 to 3 seconds deepending on size. After that, the unit buffers your deck info to the memory. It should be nearly instantaneous for track changes.

Fatryan, sorry about leaving you for last. It is hard to say why your bass is so flat. Did you change your sub box and get a leak? You may try plugging your rear rca into the sub amp. Just to ensure you don't have a issue in the sub channel. I always set my amp gain with the sub channel maxed out. I wander if your issue is more in the effieciency of the speakers and sub. If your setting the HU gains for max volume (mine was 77 but set at 70) but you listen to your music at 50-60 then your speakers may be overpowering your sub. Your sub will require alot more wattage to gain max potential. In some situations you are better off setting your sub gain at normal listening levels and your speaker gains at near max. You can always decrease the bass volume if needed. I don't know if your HU allows you to control the speakers decibles in time alignment. If so, it is very usefull for this. With the 8455, I set my sub gain at volume 50, the mids at 65, and my tweets at 70. In time alignment I can lower the decible output of any channel. Right tweeter, Left Tweeter, Right Mid, Left Mid, Right sub, and Left Sub all are independantly changed. Deepending on what I listen to my profile can be saved. If it is rap and I want alot of bass but lower midrange and highs I switch to a setting with the sub at 0 decible cancellation. If I am listening to rock and want less bass I just switch to a custom with -13 decible cancellation and I still have the sub volume control. I hope this helps out and good luck.

lol, welcome to the SQ world dude... it's weird to explain, but i was used to the Bass -5 to +5 of the old bottom line Pioneers/Sony cds before i bought my 9815, where, 0 would have no bass whatsoever, +1 would boom a little, +2 would boom too little and +3 would boom too much and +4 would distort the hell out of the speakers lol
you had whether no control of the bass or treble with that, or whether too much control with it (distortion)... i assume they worked +3db each plus or some crazy shit like that... i was trying to understand wtf was wrong with my alpine till i realize how MUCH it sounded better this way dude... never going back... not gonna get used to 2 band (Treble+Bass) EQ again, never, never... (well unless i have an external digital processor or the hu works better that way, i dunno)

btw for good bass, it's much better to adjust the gains of the amplifier than to equalize with these settings that will mess also with the bass from all the speakers thus making your comps sound like funky pups, even if you cut them too high...

this is the way it's supposed to be dude, and you will get used soon and won't regret //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

edit: ROFL just noticed you came from a 9855, making my whole post pointless =D
 
lol, welcome to the SQ world dude... it's weird to explain, but i was used to the Bass -5 to +5 of the old bottom line Pioneers/Sony cds before i bought my 9815, where, 0 would have no bass whatsoever, +1 would boom a little, +2 would boom too little and +3 would boom too much and +4 would distort the hell out of the speakers lol
you had whether no control of the bass or treble with that, or whether too much control with it (distortion)... i assume they worked +3db each plus or some crazy shit like that... i was trying to understand wtf was wrong with my alpine till i realize how MUCH it sounded better this way dude... never going back... not gonna get used to 2 band (Treble+Bass) EQ again, never, never... (well unless i have an external digital processor or the hu works better that way, i dunno)

btw for good bass, it's much better to adjust the gains of the amplifier than to equalize with these settings that will mess also with the bass from all the speakers thus making your comps sound like funky pups, even if you cut them too high...

this is the way it's supposed to be dude, and you will get used soon and won't regret //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

edit: ROFL just noticed you came from a 9855, making my whole post pointless =D
yeah, thats how all pioneers have always been for me. im not asking so i can boost the bass, im actually only asking to boost the treble. i like REALLY loud highs.
btw for good bass, it's much better to adjust the gains of the amplifier...
i dont know what your trying to say, but i, like most people, set my gains with a DMM, so theres really nothing i can do about boosting the bass without sending a clipped signal to my sub...except dB boost, but i dont really like that.
 
Slaugh, we just spent two months attepting to explain how preout voltage works and your giving advice on gains. HiAmplidude, how are you burning your mp3 disks. Do you place alot of subfolders, jpegs, regular audio on your disk? All of these will slow down the speed your deck reads the files. Try to avoid placing alot of subfolders on the disk. I don't use winamp, so I can't comment on there software. I use nero and make one folder for each artist. Inside of the artist folder is the album folder. From there, I have the album. If you burn your disk in this manor, with three folders deep, and still have a slow response then check out a demo unit. Try your disk on it and see if you do have a poor deck. I own the 8455 and the only slow time I have is when it first reads a disk for about 2 to 3 seconds deepending on size. After that, the unit buffers your deck info to the memory. It should be nearly instantaneous for track changes.

Fatryan, sorry about leaving you for last. It is hard to say why your bass is so flat. Did you change your sub box and get a leak? You may try plugging your rear rca into the sub amp. Just to ensure you don't have a issue in the sub channel. I always set my amp gain with the sub channel maxed out. I wander if your issue is more in the effieciency of the speakers and sub. If your setting the HU gains for max volume (mine was 77 but set at 70) but you listen to your music at 50-60 then your speakers may be overpowering your sub. Your sub will require alot more wattage to gain max potential. In some situations you are better off setting your sub gain at normal listening levels and your speaker gains at near max. You can always decrease the bass volume if needed. I don't know if your HU allows you to control the speakers decibles in time alignment. If so, it is very usefull for this. With the 8455, I set my sub gain at volume 50, the mids at 65, and my tweets at 70. In time alignment I can lower the decible output of any channel. Right tweeter, Left Tweeter, Right Mid, Left Mid, Right sub, and Left Sub all are independantly changed. Deepending on what I listen to my profile can be saved. If it is rap and I want alot of bass but lower midrange and highs I switch to a setting with the sub at 0 decible cancellation. If I am listening to rock and want less bass I just switch to a custom with -13 decible cancellation and I still have the sub volume control. I hope this helps out and good luck.
well like i just posted above this, the problem isnt with the bass, its with the treble. i want LOUD highs. and with my old 550mp with treble at like +3 it was D@MN loud! i did say in a previous post that the non-fade didnt change much, but i realized it was only cause i was listening to nirvana. i put in some dre and biggy and it slams now. but if you could help me with the treble thing, thatd be great. i dunno if i can live with weak highs...

and BTW, whats this about burning mp3s with subfolders? i dont get that. how do you navigate through them on your deck? i use Nero, and i use 1 folder for the "artist - album name" but no folders inside of that cause i didnt think it was possible to navigate through them if they were more than 1 folder deep...

 
In your manual it states how deep the deck will read. I believe it will read up to 8 layers. For example. I have three bands on one disk. Inside of the band file is the album files. It will display the band files first. As you select the band file it then displays the album file in order. As it plays, it will go in alphabetical order between the files and then the sub files.

Are you running active with your comps? I am not sure why you would have lower highs changing your deck unless you changed the speaker positioning or layout. I was extremely happy going to a active setup. However, my issues was more a overpowering tweeter. By relocating my tweets in the bottom of the door adjacent to the woofer it did wanders for my setup. Sorry about the lack of help.

 
In your manual it states how deep the deck will read. I believe it will read up to 8 layers. For example. I have three bands on one disk. Inside of the band file is the album files. It will display the band files first. As you select the band file it then displays the album file in order. As it plays, it will go in alphabetical order between the files and then the sub files. Are you running active with your comps? I am not sure why you would have lower highs changing your deck unless you changed the speaker positioning or layout. I was extremely happy going to a active setup. However, my issues was more a overpowering tweeter. By relocating my tweets in the bottom of the door adjacent to the woofer it did wanders for my setup. Sorry about the lack of help.
hmmm, ill hafta check that out on my deck. but chances are i will still burn my disks 1 folder deep anyways, lol.

my comps have an xover in the doors that control the woofer and tweets. then i have the xover on the amp to comtrol the low frequencies. my tweets are mounted on the doors right by the woofers. i would like to move them higher cause i know thatd be better, but then id have a hole in my doors. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

 
Just out of curiosity, turn the amp crossover off. You may be confusing a low pass for a high pass. My older amp is bandpassable and the marking for the low and high pass was very poor. The first time I set it up backward and could't figure out why there was very little sound. As for speake placement, it is all up to the listener. I moved my tweets from the top of the door to the bottom. In my opinion it gave a much better imaging and removed the driver side tweet from overpowering the rest of the system.

 
Just out of curiosity, turn the amp crossover off. You may be confusing a low pass for a high pass. My older amp is bandpassable and the marking for the low and high pass was very poor. The first time I set it up backward and could't figure out why there was very little sound. As for speake placement, it is all up to the listener. I moved my tweets from the top of the door to the bottom. In my opinion it gave a much better imaging and removed the driver side tweet from overpowering the rest of the system.
nah, its def not that. cause other than me being positive that the HPF is on not the LPF, i havent touched the amp since i had my last deck (except for setting gains)

 
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