Eclipse CD7000 or Pioneer DEH-P880PRS

[dwynne 10+ year member]

Eclipse CD7000 or Pioneer DEH-P880PRS

I can get either of these new for the same price.

Which is the better choice and why?

I will be running it with a sub and sub amp and an amp for the front components (SR6500) using the passive eq network - for now. At some point I may try it active x-overed. I listen mostly to XM with an external tuner and MP3s ripped at a high bitrate, but I do have a couple of ipods and MAY want to use the head unit control with them - but I may could just get by with 2 line ins (one tied to the XM all the time and the other to connect to the ipod and control the ipod with its UI). Can either do 2 aux ins?

Thanks!

Dennis

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[phyphoestilic 5,000+ posts]

search > you

 

[genxx 10+ year member]

Its really personnel preference. I like the Eclipse personnel preference.

 

[CRAZYCORNUTS18 10+ year member]

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[BassAddictJ 5,000+ posts]

payed with the 880.but but id take the cd7000 to see how it stacks. with cosmeticas the prs was alright, i think the cd7000 would be better,.

 

[dwynne 10+ year member]

I did search before I posted, but the old discussions are like "The 880 is $400 less than the 7000" - which is not the case for me now. So I was hoping for some new discussion now that the price is the same.

I guess if the biggest advantage the Pio had was the price, the 7000 is a better "deal" now for the same money?

Dennis

 

[headless 10+ year member]

Yes. Get the eclipse. Never look back. Unless you really need 15 bands of EQ and don't appreciate the eclipse PEQ...

Here, read this. Make your own decision.

http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/car-audio-multimedia-ice/248325-comparison-pioneer-premier-deh-p-880prs-vs-eclipse-cd7100.html

Just fyi, #3/#7 on that list is nonsense; SW level is set on the time alignment screen and can be set through pre-sets too, and #6's sub-point re: USB doesn't apply to the 7000.

I find the time alignment to be one of the biggest reasons the 7000/7100 wins out.

 

[nismos14 5,000+ posts]

Hey thats my post.

Edited to fix #3 and 7.

Hands down CD7000. The 880 was nice, but not quite as nice as the CD7100. CD7000 should be good as well, with lower outputs that will still probably outperform the 880's outputs.

 

[6spdcoupe 5,000+ posts]

Id also vote on the CD7000/7100, especially if reliability is a concern. Although make sure its bought authorized .. 3 year warranty is a terrible thing to waste. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

880 all the way. Every bit as flexible and sounds just as good.

I find the time alignment to be one of the biggest reasons the 7000/7100 wins out.

Not really sure I understand this statement. The 880 has VERY good time alignment. The 7000's time alignment is no better.

All in all though I think the 880 gained too much popularity. That was the 2nd main reason I went the P9 combo. I didn't want a deck that so many others had.

To the OP: I'm sure you'll find the 7000 to be very capable for what you're trying to do.

 

[whitemax 10+ year member]

I've had my CD7000 for about a year now. That is the longest I've held on to a HU in a long time. It is a very nice HU with alot of sound tuning capabilities. One of my favorite things about it is the programable shortcut button. I have it setup for the PEQ memory bank, which also holds the values for the x-over, and time alignment. This feature alone makes the unit very easy to use. I also like having the ability to mute the sound, pause a song, or change the sub's volume level without having to dig around menus, and submenus.

 

[dwynne 10+ year member]

Id also vote on the CD7000/7100, especially if reliability is a concern. Although make sure its bought authorized .. 3 year warranty is a terrible thing to waste. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Authorized? Man, I think I am too much of a cheapskate to go that route //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif . If I had to pay an authorized price I probably could buy one of each model on the cheap and try them both.....

Dennis

 

[Abell255 10+ year member]

i'm in the same boat as you Dennis, and i've chosen the CD7000. I would like the 7100, but for ~$200 more? nah....and the PRS looks like a great unit too, but visually the 7000 looks a bit sexier, especially as far as readability in sunlight. From what i've heard, the 7000's are as readable as alpine's biolite screens. I'm stoked to try out the PEQ as well, owns my graphic on the deh-7800. Anyhow, my .02 says you should get the eclipse.

 

[dwynne 10+ year member]

Do you know how much the mic is to go with the 7000? I know the 880 includes one but it is an option with the 7000.

From my reading the 880 would do a better job controlling an ipod it appears, but as I said that is not a huge deal - I have ipods but I don't use them in the car that much.

I have the DEH-P80MP in the convertible and while I love the ability to display song and artist together off of MP3s, the blue display washes out bad in sunlight with the top down. The no preset buttons and single joystick/knob can be a pain to use when trying to tune in Paul Harvey or the traffic of the radio. Maybe the 880 system is a little better?

It is a tough choice, but I have not found a stocking dealer for either (for sure now that the 7100 is out) to have a live look-see.

Dennis

 

[Abell255 10+ year member]

Do you know how much the mic is to go with the 7000? I know the 880 includes one but it is an option with the 7000.
From my reading the 880 would do a better job controlling an ipod it appears, but as I said that is not a huge deal - I have ipods but I don't use them in the car that much.

I have the DEH-P80MP in the convertible and while I love the ability to display song and artist together off of MP3s, the blue display washes out bad in sunlight with the top down. The no preset buttons and single joystick/knob can be a pain to use when trying to tune in Paul Harvey or the traffic of the radio. Maybe the 880 system is a little better?

It is a tough choice, but I have not found a stocking dealer for either (for sure now that the 7100 is out) to have a live look-see.

Dennis

Upon doing a little searching and finally viewing Eclipse's 2006 .pdf product manual, it states that the 7000 takes the MEI-100 mic, which is the same as the mic for the 07' models. Quick google search found:

http://www.cardomain.com/item/ECLMEI100

But i'm sure you may find it cheaper elsewhere. As for personal experience with the mic, i have not recieved my unit yet so i'm unsure. I'd like to hear what others say about it...if it's really worth picking it up or if just measuring manually works fine.

As far as the readability, i've read many reviews that the screen does not wash out even under intense sunlight. I have seen however, that people are a bit dissapointed by the smaller font used, but to me that is a VERY slight con. Also, i'm looking forward to having the presets handy on the face as well, my 7800 obviously lacked them.

I just ordered my 7000 off ebay NIB, i never care about authorized equipment. I have enough friends that if something did go wrong, i'll just bite the big one and get it serviced reasonably...knock on wood!//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif