Eclipse CD7000 or Pioneer DEH-P880PRS

[whitemax 10+ year member]

While I think that the mic should have been included, like with the previous models, it is well worth the price. While not as accurate as a real RTA, it will let you see problem areas in your frequency response.

 

[fps_dean 10+ year member]

I've never been too much of a Pioneer fan (nor do I dislike Pioneer, just never been thrilled by anything Pioneer) but I think Eclipse makes some quality products.

 

[civic si 10+ year member]

i go with eclispe

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

i'm in the same boat as you Dennis, and i've chosen the CD7000. I would like the 7100, but for ~$200 more? nah....and the PRS looks like a great unit too, but visually the 7000 looks a bit sexier, especially as far as readability in sunlight. From what i've heard, the 7000's are as readable as alpine's biolite screens. I'm stoked to try out the PEQ as well, owns my graphic on the deh-7800. Anyhow, my .02 says you should get the eclipse.

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wow.gif.23d729408e9177caa2a0ed6a2ba6588e.gif What?? That Eclipse deck is hideous. I'm not just being a Pioneer fanboy either. I've seen some nice looking Eclipse decks in my day and the 7000/7100 is NOT one of them. The 8053 was MUCH better looking (not to mention a much better performer) than these new decks Eclipse is offering. But to each his own I guess.

As far as readability is concerned: Why does everyone pull that card out when comparing decks. I mean I can see the argument if it affected the way the unit performed or stopped you from enjoying the unit but I guess I fail to see where that would make any deck better than the next. If a deck's display gets washed out by sunlight then put your hand over it to shade it for a second. By no means should that attribute EVER influence one's decision on a head unit. Performance, ergonomics and features are FAR MORE important.

BTW, I'm not ragging on you. It's just that too many people use that as an excuse.

 

[whitemax 10+ year member]

I actually think the CD7000 is a nice looking HU, reminds me of some of the units from the late 90's. I thought my CD8454 was a little odd looking with the knobs almost on the edges of the face.

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

I actually think the CD7000 is a nice looking HU, reminds me of some of the units from the late 90's. I thought my CD8454 was a little odd looking with the knobs almost on the edges of the face.

Well, if everyone made a sexy headunit then there would be no sense in having opinions on looks. No offense but think the newer Eclipse head units (anything after the 8053 lineup) are ugly by my tastes. But you may find what I like ugly. It's all preference. My whole thing is simplicity. Flashy head units got old with me a long time ago.

 

[whitemax 10+ year member]

I have mine setup with the all green illumination and a black screen with white letters. Pretty simple looking. I too do not like having a buch of things dancing on the screen. I want to be able to quickly glance at the screen and see what is on there. The only thing I do not like is the color of the knob...wished it was black or the same color as the face.

 

[Arawak420 10+ year member]

im in a debate with myself about these 2 units as well. i have a pio 8600 that is having ground issues im tired of dealing with, will be posting it for sale to someone that is knowledgeable to fix it or wants to send it out to be fix. i just want and need a new stereo like yesterday... i've figured how to use it over the last couple of years, and liked it very much but im thinking something different. i see the rage on the 880, but i know from experience and friends that eclipse has great SQ at least in the 90's. not sure what they are up to these days.

well to the 2. i have a pio 12 disc changer and the cdrb20 to aux mp3. but if i get the 7000 i can sell the pio changer and aux device to help cover some of the cost for the 7000

i can get both for the same price $300.

7000 has 100db signal to noise and 5 volt pres, which prolly relates to about 3.5v rms

880 has 105db signal to noise has 5v which relates to about 3.5v rms.

880 internal amp can be turned off. i like that feature

7000 not sure of this feature.

880 has 2 year warranty through sonics electronics. they are local and nice folks. i got my diamond d612s from them..

7000 has 1 year warranty.

you can add custom pics to the 7000, and i like the green illum. to go with the interior

880 not sure if you can add custom pics like the 8600. someone verify this for me and only has the white and blue illum. it will stay on white if i got it, as im burnt out on the blue of the 8600

both have 3 set of rca jacks and the 7000 as a 3.5mm plug for mp3

880 has a 2.5mm plug for ext. audio. where the hell do you get a 2.5mm male plug? never heard of it. my 8600 has the same 2.5mm male plug but it is for the t/a alignment and came with a mic.

remote controls. the 880 owns the 7000 by a huge margin..

my 8600 i never used the eq settings, well sometimes. i just listened to it flat to see how good a music producer is, if the producer is good it isnt even needed.. and it's easier than trying to adjust while driving.

on the 8600 i was able to add a partial bob marley vid in the screen saver feature. i liked that feature. does the 880 have that?

i liked the fact that the 8600 i could turn the subs up or down to fit the components and vice versa with slopes and curves for the fronts.

i looked at the 5100 yesterday to compare looks and i like the thing. i also like the simplicity of the 880 looks as well.

im torn //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif ,but already have pio hardware. i can pick up both tomorrw,but with the pio i can plug it in on the spot and tinker with it while i drive home. as i still have the 8600 harness and rca's still attached to the car..

is there folks in here trading their 880 for 7000? i would be willing to trade off the 880 after a while for the 7000, or maybe vice versa.

the mapquest thing is touchy as map quest gives wrong directions real often. i use google earth for directions

my setup is:

infinity/rainbow comps, diamond d612's 2x12" in sealed box, 400x4 fosgate comp amp, T1000.1BB mono block running 1 ohm(hungry *****), pio 1270 12 disc changer, and cdrb20 that runs my neuros II, ipod shuffle 2nd gen, and 2gb ipod 1st gen..

im a SQ guy to the fullest cause big bass drinks gas like no tomorrow.

i figured if i wanted to add a dvd or something ofthe sort i could get an archos and just pluf the headphone audio cord in the cdrb20 aux input

i also like the fact that both units are 24 bit and use burr brown

there is more i cna think of, but i've talked your ears off already..

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

im in a debate with myself about these 2 units as well. i have a pio 8600 that is having ground issues im tired of dealing with, will be posting it for sale to someone that is knowledgeable to fix it or wants to send it out to be fix.

Wow. Why is it so many people had sooo many problems with that model. I still have an 860 (the first year they were available) from '04 and have had ZERO problems. NOT ONE. Weird.

 

[whitemax 10+ year member]

I had a Pioneer 8600 (x2) before my Eclipse CD8455. Nice unit, no issues with it, but not the easiest HU to use. I did not like having only one wire to turn on my amps, as well as the power antenna. I hardly listen to the radio, so that was wear and tear that was not necessary. I got around this by using a switch, kind of a pain to have to do that though. I also did not enjoy having to go through menus to pause a song, or adjust the sub level. These are things that should be able to be done quickly and easily. I myself like having buttons....sure the face looks cleaner with less, but I prefer ease of use. I do not know if these things really make a difference to you, or if those things are still the same on the 880 PRS.

As for the EQ, I use it to tame certain peaks in my system. These are due to the listening environment. The cool thing is that on the cd7000 you can create a shortcut button for your PEQ settings, one of my favorite funcitons on it.

 

[Arawak420 10+ year member]

i geuss your lucky. i noticed the best thing to do when messing with the battery and such is to unplug the the harness adn then unplug the rca harness and vice versa when putting her back together., but i still blew the pico fuse thingy. and fixed it but i have something else wrong. with the ground. pioneer repair shop wants me to ship it to them with $35 to tell me whats wrong and if they fix it the $35 will be cdredited to the cost.

im just over the unit basically.

can you upload images to the 880?

 

[whitemax 10+ year member]

I do not know if that is possible or not...

 

[Arawak420 10+ year member]

"I also did not enjoy having to go through menus to pause a song"

how come you didnt just use the remote? the remote also has a att mute which i liked when answering cell phone, or passing cops, or pulling up in the drive through.

and yes getting to the bass levels is a pain cause with the remote cause you can only go forward. the t/a is nice. wrap the mic around the drivr headrest and shut the door.

on the 880 remote do you still have to go forward with the remote to get the the setting you want or can you go backwards like it should be?

 

[Abell255 10+ year member]

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wow.gif.23d729408e9177caa2a0ed6a2ba6588e.gif What?? That Eclipse deck is hideous. I'm not just being a Pioneer fanboy either. I've seen some nice looking Eclipse decks in my day and the 7000/7100 is NOT one of them. The 8053 was MUCH better looking (not to mention a much better performer) than these new decks Eclipse is offering. But to each his own I guess.
As far as readability is concerned: Why does everyone pull that card out when comparing decks. I mean I can see the argument if it affected the way the unit performed or stopped you from enjoying the unit but I guess I fail to see where that would make any deck better than the next. If a deck's display gets washed out by sunlight then put your hand over it to shade it for a second. By no means should that attribute EVER influence one's decision on a head unit. Performance, ergonomics and features are FAR MORE important.

BTW, I'm not ragging on you. It's just that too many people use that as an excuse.

Holy shit adam, i'm pretty sure you over reacted a bit here. Like i stated in a few other posts, i'm just chiming in with my .02. I rarely post on these forums...only when something directly relates to my audio needs. I for one think the newer eclipses are sexier then the elders, with a bit less awkward button lay out etc. I think the eclipse is very simple looking...yes a bit of bling and what not, but i like the presets easily accessible, and the left side layout is simple as well. Anyhow, that's not much of an argument so i don't know where you are going...everyone has their opinions man. Also, i never said it should hinder his decision one way or another, but if you were out buying like something as important as this, would you not want to know a few ins and outs? As far as performance, i think both units will be more then enough to allow one to potentially have one sick SQ system if they know what they are doing.

I don't believe the eclipse's internal amp can be shut off, which IMO is stupid... But, i do love the PEQ, and the fact of going 3 way and adjusting the highs/mids/lows... Anyhow, everything else as far as features can be searched.

I went with the CD7000 because i've personally never had an eclipse honestly, and i've always heard great things about them. I've had pio's for years, and they have been nothing short of flawless. Who's to say i won't be selling my 7000 for an....dare i say 880?//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[Arawak420 10+ year member]

i'd like to see that 7000 in action but no one has a display model, only the 3100 and 5100, which are different it looks like. i couldnt even get the 5100 at CC to play a cd i brought into the store. prolly was broke or something.

i like the way it looks in your avatar...