Does rear speakers improves driver audio experience?

[MicraMan]

Hi, I only have speakers on the front part of the vehicle, and I am wondering if having also speakers on the rear zone, on the area of the passengers, not upon the baggage part, would improve my audio experience while driving.

I have to buy the amp and the front speakers, so before doing it I think it would be better to have your opinion about it.

Thanks

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[RobGMN 5,000+ posts]

I prefer with rather than without, but the volume is kept very low. If I can localize the sound source, it's too loud.
It's like surround sound. The effect is best when kept subtle.

 

[Doxquzme Premium Member]

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[winkychevelle 10+ year member]

Personally I say no. My front end is loud enough the kid says it's too loud. A bigger impact to my enjoyment was the integration of a front sub. Best investment 2nd only to dsp I've ever made.

Next investment is better measurement system with an external sound card and loop back for better phase alignment

 

[djdilliodon!]

I like only a front stage but like many things in the Audio world, it’s purely subjective. It really comes down to what YOU like.

 

[Popwarhomie 5,000+ posts]

My audio experience improved when I deleted rear speakers.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

The rearfill in my saturn don't add enough to do again

And I'll secondwhat @winkychevelle said...doing a front sub was huge improvement in my enjoyment...I wouldn't do another vehicle without one

 

[YourNameHere 10+ year member]

Rear fill is a waste of time and money...... IMO

 

[Doxquzme Premium Member]

Rear fill is a waste of time and money...... IMO

Unless of course you like rear fill. One Man's garbage....

Rear fill done right has it's place, especially in modern setups that can save multiple tunes for different listening scenarios. One size doesn't fit all...

 

[fa5chups]

Hi, I only have speakers on the front part of the vehicle, and I am wondering if having also speakers on the rear zone, on the area of the passengers, not upon the baggage part, would improve my audio experience while driving.

I have to buy the amp and the front speakers, so before doing it I think it would be better to have your opinion about it.

Thanks

personally i enjoyed it more upgrading my rears to some memphis ms62s

 

[Doxquzme Premium Member]

The most important thing to remember when adding rear fill is to use the same tweeter. Tweeters have a distinct timbre and when different than the front, will definitely draw you backwards away from the front stage, even at low volume.

Many lines of comps offer coaxial models with the same tweeters as their component brethren that can be used for the rear fill. All things considered, try and always use the same tweeters in the rear as you do in the front. It's the same reason you will find the same consideration/recommendation for home theater surround systems, changes in timbre impart directionals that you don't want

 

[fa5chups]

The most important thing to remember when adding rear fill is to use the same tweeter. Tweeters have a distinct timbre and when different than the front, will definitely draw you backwards away from the front stage, even at low volume.

Many lines of comps offer coaxial models with the same tweeters as their component brethren that can be used for the rear fill. All things considered, try and always use the same tweeters in the rear as you do in the front. It's the same reason you will find the same consideration/recommendation for home theater surround systems, changes in timbre impart directionals that you don't want

oh really dam i didnt know that, so for example i just got some memphis ms62 for the rears, i would wnat to get the same ones for the front to right? but crutchfeild says it doesnt fit for somreason even though its same size

 

[Jimi77 5,000+ posts]

It's subjective, but I prefer fronts only. As loud as most of our systems are, the rear passengers can hear the fronts just fine. Imagining even improves in the rear seats because of equal path length distances.

 

[fa5chups]

It's subjective, but I prefer fronts only. As loud as most of our systems are, the rear passengers can hear the fronts just fine. Imagining even improves in the rear seats because of equal path length distances.

i agree i agree i will be running a pretty mild setup just 2 skar 12s at 1200w and the 4 6.5s still not sure abt fronts. i eventually wil b upgrading the alt and running more power but not a 2nd amp. what you recommend for the fronts?

 

[Doxquzme Premium Member]

oh really dam i didnt know that, so for example i just got some memphis ms62 for the rears, i would wnat to get the same ones for the front to right? but crutchfeild says it doesnt fit for somreason even though its same size

It's a choice to have rear fill or not. What's the year make and model of the car and what are you running up front?

 

[winkychevelle 10+ year member]

The most important thing to remember when adding rear fill is to use the same tweeter. Tweeters have a distinct timbre and when different than the front, will definitely draw you backwards away from the front stage, even at low volume.

Many lines of comps offer coaxial models with the same tweeters as their component brethren that can be used for the rear fill. All things considered, try and always use the same tweeters in the rear as you do in the front. It's the same reason you will find the same consideration/recommendation for home theater surround systems, changes in timbre impart directionals that you don't want

I don't recommend tweeters in the rear at all just midbass drivers crossed to play no higher than 2500hz

 

[Doxquzme Premium Member]

I don't recommend tweeters in the rear at all just midbass drivers crossed to play no higher than 2500hz

That is an option for true "fill", differential fill, etc. My point was if you're going to run full range in the rear for fill, then match, at the very least, the tweeters. Cone/dome materials next and cone size last. If the coaxial/matching full range is there and you have the option to tune it with a narrow bandpass to see if that is preferable, at least the matching drivers are in play, that's okay too.

It's a matter of personal preference and some simply like all the corners playing. Understanding staging without a true experience of why that might be preferable is again subjective and a learned preference. Personally, I enjoy both and tune for 3 difference listening environments. Single seat, double occupancy and a full car. Many don't have that option an opt for full front and rear.

You can certainly make the case for a good wideband in the rear instead of a coaxial. Still depends on the goal or want of the primary listener/owner.

 

[Doxquzme Premium Member]

I would also add that staging is heavily impacted by a noisy car. If you haven't spent a significant amount of time and $$ investing in a quiet-er ride, then the whole front stage argument kind of becomes much less significant, For some it's enough just to overcome the road noise and more speakers will definitely help with that.

 

[Jimi77 5,000+ posts]

i agree i agree i will be running a pretty mild setup just 2 skar 12s at 1200w and the 4 6.5s still not sure abt fronts. i eventually wil b upgrading the alt and running more power but not a 2nd amp. what you recommend for the fronts?

That's pretty subjective. I prefer speakers that lean more toward "hifi" vs "pro-audio." Morel, Dyn, Hertz...

 

[audiobaun 5,000+ posts]

That is an option for true "fill", differential fill, etc. My point was if you're going to run full range in the rear for fill, then match, at the very least, the tweeters. Cone/dome materials next and cone size last. If the coaxial/matching full range is there and you have the option to tune it with a narrow bandpass to see if that is preferable, at least the matching drivers are in play, that's okay too.

It's a matter of personal preference and some simply like all the corners playing. Understanding staging without a true experience of why that might be preferable is again subjective and a learned preference. Personally, I enjoy both and tune for 3 difference listening environments. Single seat, double occupancy and a full car. Many don't have that option an opt for full front and rear.

You can certainly make the case for a good wideband in the rear instead of a coaxial. Still depends on the goal or want of the primary listener/owner.

I enjoy rear fill as well. The experiencing is worth the efforts. Doesnt take much to fill that void that always seems to be missing for that surround sound effect imho for the whole vehicle listening.