Deadening question.

TurdFergueson2
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Ok, So on to the next phase of my build.......... Deadening. I got the Dynamat extreme door kit for now. But the thing with my doors is there is this big *** gap between the outer and inner door. Here's a few pics:



 
And from what I see there is really no way to take that inner part off. Well at least no way I want to try. I swear this car is a pain in the *** to do anything on. You have to take off your entire back seat to get to the rear speakers, and the stock tweets are some 3 inch shits that you cannot find anywhere.

 
Yeah, you cant take the inner part off without cutting. You just have to reach through the openings and risk losing some skin. This is why installers charge to do this.

You can also look into getting some spectrum spray from Second Skin. It is liquid deadener that can be painted on or sprayed on.

 
Yeah, you cant take the inner part off without cutting. You just have to reach through the openings and risk losing some skin. This is why installers charge to do this.You can also look into getting some spectrum spray from Second Skin. It is liquid deadener that can be painted on or sprayed on.

Not that's a damm fine answer, thanks. I really have no experience with either, but I would not mind at all using the spray stuff.

 
http://www.secondskinaudio.com

Check em out.

If you opt to put the mats on the outer skin. You can find long handles rollers in arts and crafts stores. They come in handy for pressing the mats to the metal.

Clean the surface from oil and moisture as best you can and remember that the adhesive on the pads is pressure activated and needs to be pressed down hard.

 
I already got some of that denatured alcohol from Home Depot. I rubbed that door in the pic down a little after I took the pic. I watched the Dynamat video like 5 times.....lol. They didn't show you doors that difficult though. But thanks a lot, I wouldve never thought about liquid on that outside part. I would tried putting my big *** hands through the cracks to fill that the best way I could.

 
Ouch, tough door to work with. Definitely use at minimum one layer on the inner part of the door. Put some closed cell foam over it (like Overkill from secondk skin). Put at least one layer of deadener on the out part of the door. To cover up the holes, it will will take time but will make an improvement. You can get some sheet metal screw it into the door and then put deadener over the sheet metal. To ensure less rattle, put Rattle Pad (from SS as well) between the door panel and the door. It's easiest to feed any wires through the Rattle Pad and stick it onto the door by using velcro, so that if you have to remove it, it would be easy.

As Ed Lester mentioned, you can also you Spectrum. Great stuff but you will need a few layers. 3 of those layers at minimum. I recommend spraying it, but you would need to use their spray gun since it's thick. Or you can use a regular one by mixing it with a little bit of water and it will spray easier, but you will need more coats since you diluted it with water. You can always paint it on, but it is time consuming. If you want, you can get the Sludge Activator and it makes it THICK. You can spread that with a putty knife of something similar, but I just used my hand (with a glove of course).

Personally, the Damplifier (or Dynamat Xtreme in your case) will be quicker to do since you would need several layers of of the Spectrum and you must let it sit and dry. I hope you have success with the Dynamat Xtreme. I needed some deadener and I bought a door kit for 15 bucks, totally not worth it. It was thinner than Damplifier (not Damplifier Pro) and the adhesion for the Damplifier was better. Once on the Dynamat did stick on, but it had to be rolled on hard, just my experience, yours may be different. I've messed with several different brands of Deadener and I'm glad someone had mentioned Second Skin to me. It's the best stuff I've used.

 
I already got some of that denatured alcohol from Home Depot. I rubbed that door in the pic down a little after I took the pic. I watched the Dynamat video like 5 times.....lol. They didn't show you doors that difficult though. But thanks a lot, I wouldve never thought about liquid on that outside part. I would tried putting my big *** hands through the cracks to fill that the best way I could.
You would need the sludge for that since it's thick. The Spectrum is thin, like syrup. Do post pics when you're done. Once you deaden the door well you'll be satisfied when all you hear is a thud when you hit it with your fist (don't dent it though, lol). For kicks you can have someone spray a hose on the rear doors and then the front so you can hear the difference. I did my hood with a layer of Damplifier and 3 layers of Spectrum and I could barely hear the hose.

 
I've seen lots of people talking about Rammat. Is that the same sorta stuff?
Best bang for the buck from what I hear. It is good deadener, I believe thickness is close to damplifier. I don't like how it comes in a roll because it's all wrinkly whereas the Damplifier comes in a box with sheets so it's flat. I used Rammat, it was good. I'd use it, but I love Second Skin and would want to keep all my products the same (I'm just picky like that).

Cascade is supposed to be real good, but I don't think it's sold anymore from what I remember someone saying.

 
Good thread. I have been wanting to do this to the Dodge, but I didn't know where to start. I can't wait to take the skins off to see how hard it will be to do mine.
I been looking at those doors for like 2 weeks. I just didn't know where to start. The liquid stuff was a great suggestion.

 
You would need the sludge for that since it's thick. The Spectrum is thin, like syrup. Do post pics when you're done. Once you deaden the door well you'll be satisfied when all you hear is a thud when you hit it with your fist (don't dent it though, lol). For kicks you can have someone spray a hose on the rear doors and then the front so you can hear the difference. I did my hood with a layer of Damplifier and 3 layers of Spectrum and I could barely hear the hose.

Yeah I get a lot of road noise too. Deadening could turn into week long process in itself the way I have it pictured in my mind. I want to rip everything out and do it right to dampen the road noise. I want to recarpet the floor as well. Since I have some of your attention I was thinking I could get away with some carpet from Home Depot or some place like that. Only difference I see in the Home depot stuff is it's softer. Anybody ever try it?

I will most definitely Do a build log when I do. Right now I'm still gathering materials. I've been riding around with no music for like close to a month. you start hearing everything wrong with your car when you do.

 
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