Considering DIY front stage, but open to 2-ways as well

[kendogg 10+ year member]

In the $200 range, I would reccomend the prs720

See, I've looked into that one, and it looks quite good. Although, I've read that the tweet is the lacking element in that set, is that true?

I can get any of the Rainbow stuff at cost, along with probably quite a bit of equipment, so, whatever that works out to, is what I can spend. I'm sure I can get the PRS's at cost, I know I can get alpine, etc.

 

[nismos14 5,000+ posts]

If thats even remotely accurate than the CAL25 will shit on the PRS's tweet for sure. Midbass is SOLID from the SLC set too.

 

[kendogg 10+ year member]

If thats even remotely accurate than the CAL25 will shit on the PRS's tweet for sure. Midbass is SOLID from the SLC set too.

Hmm, awesome. I wonder if I can get the Cal25VOF with the appropriate crossovers, and the W165 SLC mids?

Does anybody here know what the audible difference is between the kick and the regular version is? I'm just not sure what it really means for overall sound quality.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

See, I've looked into that one, and it looks quite good. Although, I've read that the tweet is the lacking element in that set, is that true?

I can get any of the Rainbow stuff at cost, along with probably quite a bit of equipment, so, whatever that works out to, is what I can spend. I'm sure I can get the PRS's at cost, I know I can get alpine, etc.

If you can get them at the same price, go with the SLC w/ upgraded tweeter for sure.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

If thats even remotely accurate than the CAL25 will shit on the PRS's tweet for sure. Midbass is SOLID from the SLC set too.

agreed about the tweeter.

It would be a close call with the Midbass though....

I was thinking the SLC was about $100 more than the prs720 though....and for that price you might get a seas neo or something to replace that tweeter and still be ~$40 ahead, provided you run active.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Hmm, awesome. I wonder if I can get the Cal25VOF with the appropriate crossovers, and the W165 SLC mids?
Does anybody here know what the audible difference is between the kick and the regular version is? I'm just not sure what it really means for overall sound quality.

From the reviews I have read, there is a difference in the profi series. I would say that there is a difference in the SLC series as well.

I have heard of people running them at 63 vs 80 for better blending with the sub.

 

[kendogg 10+ year member]

From the reviews I have read, there is a difference in the profi series. I would say that there is a difference in the SLC series as well.
I have heard of people running them at 63 vs 80 for better blending with the sub.

Well, like I said in my first post, I'm not running active. So, this'll be off a 2 channel amp, high passed wherever they sound best. I'm not quite sure I understand your answer, sorry if I'm missing something. I know that there is a difference between mid's in the kick's vs. regular SLC's, but what I'm asking is what is that difference?

 

[nismos14 5,000+ posts]

The kicks "require" an 80hz xover, but are supposed to provide more punch right around that range.

When I had the SLC's in my doors (properly deadened and sealed up) the midbass's were pretty freaking sick. They produced a ton of midbass and were sufficient in full range listening without a sub. The kicks would probably be even better in the 80-125 hz range, but not necessary to enjoy the slc's.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Well, like I said in my first post, I'm not running active. So, this'll be off a 2 channel amp, high passed wherever they sound best. I'm not quite sure I understand your answer, sorry if I'm missing something. I know that there is a difference between mid's in the kick's vs. regular SLC's, but what I'm asking is what is that difference?

The difference is the focus on the kick bass areas (about 80-125 Hz)

My SLCs were not properly deadened or sealed and I found them rather weak. The "kick" option can make up (somewhat) for lack of quality install.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

If it helps...me and nizmos both run Rainbow.

 

[kendogg 10+ year member]

The kicks "require" an 80hz xover, but are supposed to provide more punch right around that range.
When I had the SLC's in my doors (properly deadened and sealed up) the midbass's were pretty freaking sick. They produced a ton of midbass and were sufficient in full range listening without a sub. The kicks would probably be even better in the 80-125 hz range, but not necessary to enjoy the slc's.

OK, I think I understand. Whats with this 'requirement' of the 80 Hz xover though? I mean, I don't think it's a smart idea to run any component set full range when being amplified, especially with alot of power, and extremely high listening levels. You'll run out of excursion way too quickly.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Normal midbasses are crossed lower than 80 hertz in my experience.

 

[kendogg 10+ year member]

Normal midbasses are crossed lower than 80 hertz in my experience.

I understand this, but I'm trying to figure out what this 80 Hz xover is all about. My doors will be heavily deadened, so, thats not going to be an issue. So, the kick option is a better midbass driver then? Or is it something to do with the xover? I'm sorry guys, not to sound like a dick, but you really aren't explaining it at all in a way that I can understand. Makes me almost feel like I should begin to agree with the guys on CAF.......

 

[nismos14 5,000+ posts]

Ya normally I would x at around 60 hz or so. 80 is the requirement on the "kicks".

 

[nismos14 5,000+ posts]

I understand this, but I'm trying to figure out what this 80 Hz xover is all about. My doors will be heavily deadened, so, thats not going to be an issue. So, the kick option is a better midbass driver then? Or is it something to do with the xover? I'm sorry guys, not to sound like a dick, but you really aren't explaining it at all in a way that I can understand. Makes me almost feel like I should begin to agree with the guys on CAF.......

The kicks won't go as low as the non kicks, but they have a bit better impact in the 80-125 range though.