Considering DIY front stage, but open to 2-ways as well

[kendogg 10+ year member]

OK, long story. I've had a post up on http://www.caraudioforum.com for a few days now, and am looking for some more opinions, as this place seems to have ALOT of knowledge about components.

First off - I'm not going active, I don't have the money to go active, and have no problem cutting/modifying my car to fit the desired setup. I can build whatever, as long as in the end, the sonic results will be pleasing. FYI - I listen to my music EXTREMELY loud, at all times. I run at full tilt 75% of the time I'm in the vehicle (not 60/60 volume I'm no nub, lol). So, if making any recommendations, please keep this in mind, as I will be running everything probably to their max.

If I go DIY, this is the tweeter I want to use:

http://www.madisound.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi?cart_id=1738599.16448&pid=2135

However - I can't decide on a mid, and I can't get enough corresponding info to choose a proper mid, as I'm getting more and more confused by the day. I've considered running a dual-mid setup, such as dual 5" mids, to give the desired amount of midbass, yet retain composer in the upper end before the xover point. I was looking at a couple of mids on Parts Express, and a couple of the Daytons looked nice,ad so did a 5" mid from Hi-Vi, but alot of people are saying that it won't work. I'm not really sure why, do I haven't been able to form a real opinion about them so far.

I've been looking at the Alpine Type X, and it seems they have a nice tweeter, fantastic xover, but only a decent mid. I work for a Rainbow/Alpine dealer, so I can get pretty much anything at cost, authorized. Unfortunately, I never get to hear anything good, in a loud vehicle,s o I have nothing to base any of my decisions on.

As for what I've had in the past - not very much. I had Diamond Audio M5 series components, and they were absolutely terrible. No midbass whatsoever, and the tweeter would make my ears bleed. I installed a set of CDT CWM-6's in a car, I liked the midbass, but they seemed a bit brite to me. I've been told that very may well have been the tweeter positioning though. And I installed a set of JL XR's in an Acura Integra, and these are my favorite set that I've heard to date.

Also - these will be off-axis, in the doors. I can't run kicks. Doors will be very heavily deadened, and the tweeter will be put wherever it will sound best. I'd like to get something with a chambered tweeter if at all possible, especially if I DIY.

As for power, currently, they will be ran from a Profile 2 channel, 100x2 rms at 4 ohms. When I ca afford to upgrade my sub amp, my Cadence Z9000 (300x2 rms at 4 ohms) will be swapped in for front stage duty.

I see the Rainbow SLC 265's on here quite often, bu that set doesn't include the tweeter that I would want if I bought a Rainbow set, I would want the CAL 25 tweeter that comes with the Germaniums. Does anybody have any reviews/info on these, compared to say, the JL XR's, or the new Kicker SS's?

I'll post more questions/info later, I think this is enough for now, lol. Thanks guys.

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[6spdcoupe 5,000+ posts]

Wait for the newer version SLCs that include the CAL25s. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[kendogg 10+ year member]

Wait for the newer version SLCs that include the CAL25s. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Info please???????

YGPM

 

[6spdcoupe 5,000+ posts]

Shhh its secret. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[kendogg 10+ year member]

Shhh its secret. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Lmao. Anywho......

Anybody else have any input BESIDES the Rainbow rep //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[Twistid 5,000+ posts]

i got dayton 7" mids, only $30 a piece , pretty beefy, look clean as ****,

i have yet to hear them, but everyone elses opinions of them (that actually own or heard them) are nothing but great, extremly loud, strong midbass, very clear

 

[kendogg 10+ year member]

i got dayton 7" mids, only $30 a piece , pretty beefy, look clean as ****,
i have yet to hear them, but everyone elses opinions of them (that actually own or heard them) are nothing but great, extremly loud, strong midbass, very clear

Which Dayton mids, the RS225's? My only issue with them is that from what I keep getting told, they need to be crossed over very, very low.

 

[nismos14 5,000+ posts]

Dayton's are alright I have the 7's in my door but am looking to move them soon. I would suggest going the SLC route. Those are going to be ridiculous when the CAL25 is incorporated into the mix.

 

[6spdcoupe 5,000+ posts]

Absolutely -biampable/cal 25s/cosmetically more appealing and about the same price? Who could ask for more? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[slick rick 10+ year member]

Absolutely -biampable/cal 25s/cosmetically more appealing and about the same price? Who could ask for more? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

are my germs becoming outdated with the new SLC's? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif I love em...

 

[6spdcoupe 5,000+ posts]

are my germs becoming outdated with the new SLC's? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif I love em...

Nah your ok still. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[robob2 10+ year member]

Wait for the newer version SLCs that include the CAL25s. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Did you get my PM? When will the new SLC be available?

 

[nismos14 5,000+ posts]

Nah your ok still. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

I may have to venture back into the SLC line for the mids //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif Or maybe those very perdy yellow cones sitting in your garage........... HMMMMMMM

Or the other paper cones sittin in there.... hmmmm //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/*******.gif.a649d21efc0d1fd4890a6428166586c1.gif

 

[korndawg 10+ year member]

Is the CMX line getting upgraded? And when do these new updated versions come out? I still havent bought my new components (**** bills!) so I'm still in the market!

 

[kendogg 10+ year member]

Well, I'm considering buying the cheap $80 Cadences to tide me over until the new SLC's are ready to ship, but does anybody else have any other suggestions? I'm really open to some different idea's, I'm just not 100% sure what I'm looking at.