car alarm help for 2004 ranger

[bumpncarstereo 10+ year member]

i have a 2004 ranger i am trying to install an alarm in. the alarm is a viper 5000

here is the deal. i can not get the power locks to work. i am at a complete stand still and i need to get this done because my truck is all sorts of torn apart. and i already called into work today.

here is the paper work i have on the alarm

http://www.nundamustard.com/Dan/alarm/alarm%20install.pdf

http://www.nundamustard.com/Dan/alarm/1093.pdf

http://www.nundamustard.com/Dan/alarm/1076.pdf

http://www.nundamustard.com/Dan/alarm/print.asp.htm

also a couple of pics from the instalation manual

i have the power lock wire hooked to the green black wire of the harness

i have the power unlock wire hooked to the blue black wire, with a diode

i have the driver side door trigger hooked to the blue black wire with a diode

i have the purple door trigger input hooked to both driver and pass side door triggers, diode on each.

the black with white stripe i was going to hook into the wire i already have going to the dome light in the smart junction box

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[starkfu 10+ year member]

So do you have the other portions of the "module wake up" connected? like the factory disable and what not? (if you have the factory alarm module)

Also, no mention of the door lock INPUT to feed the output.

Locate the car's lock and unlock triggers (both negative trigger I believe) hook up the respective common output wires to each one, then make sure that you fuse and ground the lock and unlock input wires. You aren't getting any output from the alarm cause it doesn't know what to send out. The 87A outputs are not necessary if it is negative trigger, but test it first.

Constant 12 volts YELLOW IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS

Ignition 12 volts GREEN/VIOLET IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS

Starter RED/L BLUE IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS

Dome Light BLACK/L BLUE (+) LEFT KICK PANEL

Trunk Pin Switch N/A

Parking Lamp BROWN (+) AT HEADLIGHT SWITCH

Power Lock PINK/YELLOW LEFT (W KEYLESS)##

Power Unlock PINK/L GREEN KICK PANEL (W / O KEYLESS) #1

* Ford's G.E.M. May Drop A Low Signal Across The Dome Light And In Most Cases Cause A False Trigger. To Eliminate This Cut the Door Pin Trigger Wires At The G.E.M. And Insert A One-Amp Diode With Band Side Faceing Doors.Make Your Isolated Connection On The Door Pin Side. The GEM (Generic Electronic Module) Is To The Left Of The Radio.Door Pin Wires:YELLOW/BLACK (DR), GRAY/RED (PS)

## Negative Pulse

#1 Reversal Rest At Ground Door Locks

Accessories

Window Up D\ WHITE/BLACK P\ WHT/YEL @MAIN SWITCH

Window Down R/ TAN/BLUE S/ TAN/BLUE

Ign Key Warn BLACK/PINK (-) PLUG TO THE RIGHT OF STEERING COLUMN

Trunk Release N/A

OEM Horn YELLOW/GREEN (-) PLUG TO THE RIGHT OF STEERING COLUMN

Headlights RED/YELLOW (+) AT HEADLIGHT SWITCH

OEM Alarm Arm N/A

OEM Alarm Disarm

Reversal Rest At Ground Power Window Circuit Diagram.

OEM Alarm Horn Wire: DARK/BLUE(+) At Factory Horn. OEM Alarm Hood Trigger:TAN/LT.GREEN (-) At Switch Under Hood.

Remote Start

Tach Signal TAN/YELLOW AT INSTRUMENT CLUSTER*

Ignition #2 GRAY/YELLOW IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS **

Ignition #3 N/A

Accessory BLACK/L GREEN IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS**

Neutral Safety NONE GROUNDING TYPE - OEM SWITCH OPENS STARTER CIRCUIT

Brake Light L GREEN (+) AT SWITCH ABOVE BRAKE PEDAL

Reverse Light BLACK/PINK (+) ON DRIVER SIDE OF TRANSMISSION

Rear Window Defrost N/A

* Pin 15 Of 16 Pin White Connector

**Immobilizer Bypass

 

[bumpncarstereo 10+ year member]

i dont have the factory alarm, so i dont have that hooked up.

i was wondering where i hook up the other wires in that harness. the violet, and the violet black are joined at a fuse holder. what would that plug into? just a 12v source? also where would i ground it to? how would i test the 87a's?

 

[starkfu 10+ year member]

but you do have the factory keyless right?

otherwise you have completely different factory lock system.

if you do have keyless then it is a negative trigger factory door lock, so your ouputs (30 common) go to the respective lock and unlocks, however, they will not output anything until you hook up the 87 (input wires) to the correct polarity of input, in this case ground (if you have factory keyless, if not stop everything!!), don't connect them to 12V whatever you do!!

the 87a is not used in negative trigger locks, so just cap them off, but 87 has to be hooked to ground for the common ouputs to send the negative trigger signal.

The alarm just has a spdt relay built into it, so you are connect a relay through the alarm, the 30, 87, and 87a are ports of a relay.

 

[bumpncarstereo 10+ year member]

so i ground the 87 wires and that is it?

 

[THUNDERBIRD 10+ year member]

well it could be the fact that your using the 451m, take that out and use the 2 wire harness that is the normal lock unlock and see if that works, if so wire a relay up to do the wake up function. did you test the wires that you are using to see if the voltage changes when you lock and unlock or are you going by a tech sheet only.

 

[bumpncarstereo 10+ year member]

actually i am not using the 451m. i did pick one up, but starkfu helped me out over aim so i didnt need it. i got it all working. i just didnt know to ground the input wire. learning ftw

 

[THUNDERBIRD 10+ year member]

sweet glad to hear you got it working i want to get a ranger but i think i am gonna possibly buy this dakota quad cab in town instead.

 

[bumpncarstereo 10+ year member]

i personally dont care for quad cabs, and dont really like dodges automatics. but having a truck is so nice, most of the time.