Bush at his best

[MTXman 10+ year member]

ROFL! The first video is the best. OMG! I can't stop laughing.

ROFL i know.. he is a retard. "You've been given sovereignty and you are....a.. a.. sovereign... entity".

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

*Why should we spend millions of our tax dollars to assimilate people who are here illegally? That is, breaking the law by being in the country?

Because there isn't a feasible way to get them out. Its better to have them assimilate than for them to remain disenfranchised within our borders. I also fail to see why it would cost money. If they are included into society they will also pay taxes. unless you are trying to say that immigrants are some how inferior and incapable of being productive and contributing members of society, given the opportunity.

*The Geneva convention definition of torture states "Outrages upon personal dignity, in particular, humiliating and degrading treatment" shall not be allowed. One could conceivably argue that simple interrogation procedures such as bright lights, loud and foul language, and harsh questions could constitue this. Just how are we supposed to interogate prisoners? Are we even allowed to in any form under such broad guidlines? Very vague and broad definition, definitely not clear cut enough.

Reread my post. Maintain the standards as they are, in order to protect our moral authority in the international community, but continue to do what ever we want. Just as every other country now does. There is no reason to lose credibility with the world, when we can just keep the agreements and continue to do what ever the fuq we want. Plus since it will be covert, the incentive for those in charge to only use torture when its really needed. It will keep them from using it too often, for fear of discovery.

*Late term abortions? Many doctors define abortion as terminance of a pregnancy all the way up until the unbilical cord is cut. Your saying the woman should be allowed to terminate a late term preganancy at any time, including once the child has been birthed, as long as the chord has not been cut? What about several days before giving birth to a healthy, fully developed baby?

Again reread my post, SOME regulation would be fine with me. Maybe restrict abortions after the 20th week or so, except for rape/incest/life of the mother.

*Many teachers unions are faulty under the premise that there is absolutely no competition, or set requirements members must reach from an educational standpoint. Lazy teachers make the same wage as outstanding one's, while the students unlucky enough to get stuck with a lame duck suffer. They have abosultely no accountability to the taxpayer, who in turn pay their salaries, to educate thier children to agreeable standards.

Simply abolishing teachers unions wont instantly solve any problems. I think you are being overly simplistic. There are minimum standards to keep federal funding.

*There is absolutely no "physical" money goverment social security accounts right now. The current system is basically a huge slush fund that politicians raid on a yearly basis, leaving behind IOU's for future generations. Americans need the ability to invest at least a portion of thier money into accounts that can not be raided by goverment, and that they themselves have individual control over.

How about they just stop raiding the account. I wouldn't be opposed to some sort of private accounts, as long as the long term solvency issues are also addressed at the same time. Taking more money out of the system without fixing it, isn't enough for me.

 

[Calikid 5,000+ posts]

No 1 will ever stop Latinos from jumping the border.

hahahahahahaha

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

No 1 will ever stop Latinos from jumping the border.
hahahahahahaha

its not the latinos that are scary.

 

[NightHawkFG 10+ year member]

it just shows you that he is just like the rest of us. making stupid little mistakes.

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

How's this? Don't pay your best employees more, don't ease out your least productive workers, and for crying out loud, never fire anyone, not even for the most blatant misconduct on the job. It works for the public schools, doesn't it? Actually, it doesn't, but since they're union government monopolies, they don't care. They never go out of business. They just keep doing what they're doing, year after year, churning out class after class of students handicapped by a poor education. Home schooled students statistically blow public school students out of the water when it comes to academic achievment. Makes you wonder what our millions in taxpayer dollars are paying for.

Being union myself I would say yes, you pay them all the same. Workers that belong to the same union should not make anymore than the person next to them (except foreman) even if one is better than the other. As soon as one worker negotiates their own wages they're no longer part of the UNION. BTW that is why its called a UNION. Unions are about workers sticking together and having strength in numbers. This is why corporate thinkers such as yourself can't stand them. Its not about one teacher being better than another to you. Its about not having total control over the workers because they're in a union that has you and everyone like you upset. The fact that they can't walk out and fire someone at the drop of a hat. The fact that they can't just cut healthcare. The fact that they can't just cut any other benefit or lower the negotiated wages. Those are the reasons you and other corporate type people can't stand unions. Just admit it.

The union I belong to does NOT mean you don't have to pull your weight on the job. If there is a weak link, he or she is the first to get laid off. Firing is reserved for blatant disregard for safety and/or other company policies which are governed by the union steward and the company representative. I know you want to paint the picture of unions as a bunch of lazy, overpaid and underworked slobs but that just isn't true at all.

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

he doesn't mean everyone in the shop makes the same exact wage.. people advance and earn raises according to the same set of rules. he is saying its beneficial to the worker to negotiate as a group for all members than to try to individually negotiate. And he is right. Unions benefit the worker.

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

Only the unskilled worker. A person that is skilled at what they do is only held back by a union. Unions are for lazy people that don't want to work hard and make the same as others working hard.

thats not true at all. Skill trade workers benefit greatly.

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

Skilled medical personnel, government employees, bricklayers, plumbers, carpenters, electricians, ect - all benefit from unionization. You cannot tell me they dont get higher wages and better medical/dental/vision/pension plans by group negotiation.

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

As a whole they will get more. However the richest people in the world are not part of a union //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

yeah lol ok well unions still benefit every fuqing worker, in every fukkin industry they are found in. Otherwise they wouldnt form unions //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif If you are able to negotiate a better deal, nothing stops you from doing so, you certainly arent held back by the union, all you have to do is find another employer willing to pay you more. To say people are held back by unions is retarded.

 

[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

Only the unskilled worker. A person that is skilled at what they do is only held back by a union. Unions are for lazy people that don't want to work hard and make the same as others working hard.

Clearly you have absolutely no idea how a school district is ran.

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

faktor is a perfect example of whats wrong with our school systems.

 

[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

Let's see. A lot of terrible teachers making the same as a very very few good ones.

No , let me break it down for you.

With school districts as they are, no matter what happens to the budget, teachers will still maintain jobs, since they are unionized.

Now, take away the unions, and teacher's salaries will fall under the school districts budget, which, I know at least around here, gets voted down more often then it is approved- which would mean a lot of teacher's out of jobs....//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

Care to elaborate?

naw. Think it over a bit.

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

See that's the problem with the PUBLIC school system combined with the fact that most schools are starving for teachers so they hire pretty much anyone with some sort of college degree whether they are really fit to be a teacher or not.

So the way to fix the situation is to banish unions and decrease the incentives to attract well qualified and competent people into the industry? How exactly would that improve things?

 

[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

See that's the problem with the PUBLIC school system combined with the fact that most schools are starving for teachers so they hire pretty much anyone with some sort of college degree whether they are really fit to be a teacher or not.

How does this correlate to doing away with the unions //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

Fail.

quail

 

[DBfan187 5,000+ posts]

quail

 

[myjaja 10+ year member]

The Republicans who split with the president withstood immense pressure from the White House and corporate lobbyists in order to take a stand with the organized labor, environmental, farm and international human rights groups that opposed the agreement. They were so courageous and so consistent in their determination to block the president's agenda that, during the floor debate, Representative Sherrod Brown, the Ohio Democrat who led opposition to CAFTA, specifically praised Republicans such as Idaho's Butch Otter and North Carolina's Walter Jones for their efforts. On the other hand, the Democrats who supported Bush's agenda faced little or no pressure from the White House. Nor did they show anything akin to courage or consistency. They simply voted with the White House because, either they agree with the president's misguided approach to global trade or they thought they could trade their votes for big contributions from the corporate interests that see the NAFTA/CAFTA model of free trade as an opportunity to improve business bottom lines at the expense of workers, the environment and communities in the U.S. and Latin America. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

Public schools ARE unions. Private schools are not unionized and have teachers COMPETING for jobs which results in a much better education.

Impossible to compare the two...people pay money on top of their taxes to attend private schools...private schools can do what they want and hire who they want, they are in no part affiliated with public schooling.