Building the BEST system

[green_slip 10+ year member]

save a little money for some type of alarm or insurance rider....just a thought.

 

[OGButch 10+ year member]

HU: alpine 7995 ~300Components: CDT HD-62ef ~200

http://thezeb.com/caraudio/CDT_Audio_Components.html

Component amp: us acoustics 2100...or 4085 ~100-180

Rear speakers: not really needed necessarily with good front components...but cdt-cl6x or cl5x. ~$50

Sub(s): one 12" RE XXX, or 1 SI magnum d2

http://www.respl.com call for direct pricing

http://www.stereointegrity.com will be in stock in a lil while...

~300-400

Sub amp: Hifonics bx1500d, bx1000d, avionixx 1200.2 ~$300

Electrical: 200 amp HO alt...~280-300

http://www.execessiveamperage.com

Wiring: http://www.weldingsupply.com 2 awg welding cable...and various needed supplies from http://www.knukonceptz.com ~80-100

Dampening: Second skin damplifier...http://www.secondskinaudio.com PM member ifandorbuts on this forum for a discount. ~60-120 for half or whole car.

Box: http://www.gnomeaudio.com get Donn aka loneranger on the forum to build u a 2.5 cube ported box tune to 30hz. ~80-100

$2150 at most...

NG

Ok, I have checked out a lot of these recomindations.

Picked the

Deck:

Alpine CDA-7998 $555 deck

Speakers:

Looked at the CDT speakers and they look great especially the ES-620 $540 to $690), but I don't think they will fit in the Civic front door because of their depth.

Even though I may not really need rear speakers I would like to have them to balance out a good system and don't know if the CL-6X will do the trick. I was thinking about the CDT HD-62 ($200). Any other sugjestions?

Amp (for Speakers):

To power these speakers I was thinking about the Hifonic 125XIV-FR (125X4 @ 4 ohm 1000 watts RMS and $599)

Sub:

Emailed Resonant Engineering about a price for the XXX 12" and 10" to compare. From what I read it is a dual 2 ohms and 1600 Watts RMS.

---------------------Or the 12" Magnum D2 (600 Watts RMS @ 2ohms $270)---

Amp (for sub):

The amp choice for the XXX sub seams to be the Hifonics BX 1500D (set @2 ohms and 1000 Watts X1 $580). Is that enough to power the XXX?

---------------------Or the BX 1000D (500Watts X1 @ 2ohms $500)---

Cabacitors:

Two Lightning Audio Strike LSD10DT-03 Stiffening Capacitor $250

So far I'm up to $2725 before the XXX sub, wiring, enclosure, damplifier, shipping and install.

--------------------Or $2915 if I get the Magnum D2 and the BX 1000D before wiring, enclosure, damplifier, shipping and install

I think that is everything concerning the new recominded system.

 

[OGButch 10+ year member]

save a little money for some type of alarm or insurance rider....just a thought.

Good idea what do you think of the Viper 791 XV 2 Way System?

 

[DBfan187 5,000+ posts]

try this: http://www.caraudio.com/vb/showthread.php?t=47884

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

first of all...need to get CAPACITIORS out of ur head. lol, yeah...they are worthless just so ya know...a band-aid for a week electrical system. Also, you DO NOT want components in the back...this will make ur system SQ less...b/c you want ur soundstage in front...with a little back-up in the rear, this is why u should go with coaxials like the CDT cl-6x's. Believe me, what i recommended....it will be AMAZING and much more than u would;ve gotten anywhere else. Also, it includes EVERYTHING you need with money to spare!!! what u listed, i think, is a little above and beyond...too much...lil overspending. Save some money on the HU...it is DEF not worth $250 MORE. the components....not worth an extra $400...the HD's sound AMAZING. the hifonics amp...good find but too powerful for rear coaxe's...also mass expensive. You got A LOT of very experienced people giving you some head's up...and what i gave you will be sweet....very sweet! so, obviously u came here for advice from us, so try it out...listen to my original suggestions...we won't lead u wrong, u'll love it, i'm 4 real. good luck, peace

NG

 

[OGButch 10+ year member]

first of all...need to get CAPACITIORS out of ur head. lol, yeah...they are worthless just so ya know...a band-aid for a week electrical system. Also, you DO NOT want components in the back...this will make ur system SQ less...b/c you want ur soundstage in front...with a little back-up in the rear, this is why u should go with coaxials like the CDT cl-6x's. Believe me, what i recommended....it will be AMAZING and much more than u would;ve gotten anywhere else. Also, it includes EVERYTHING you need with money to spare!!! what u listed, i think, is a little above and beyond...too much...lil overspending. Save some money on the HU...it is DEF not worth $250 MORE. the components....not worth an extra $400...the HD's sound AMAZING. the hifonics amp...good find but too powerful for rear coaxe's...also mass expensive. You got A LOT of very experienced people giving you some head's up...and what i gave you will be sweet....very sweet! so, obviously u came here for advice from us, so try it out...listen to my original suggestions...we won't lead u wrong, u'll love it, i'm 4 real. good luck, peace
NG

You're right man, I guess I am over doing it.

Thanks

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

no problem, just glad to see sum1 that listens to suggestions when they ask for them. Just trying to help you do it right the first time...b/c i didn't...and it sucked....so i like to help others do it right and save them the time and frustration. good luck, keep visiting here...u'll leard a lot. peace

NG

 

[Bavarian3 10+ year member]

You're right man, I guess I am over doing it. Thanks

yeah and i can back up everything ngsm13 is saying. capacitors are worthless and actually hurt unless u have an upgraded alternator. then its ok to go for just a 1 farad cap. Still wont do u much good though. Also, when u have a nice set of components up front powered by an amp u do Not need rear speakers. Trust me. if u want go for dedicated midbass drivers. Or get a 3 way component set.

 

[OGButch 10+ year member]

no problem, just glad to see sum1 that listens to suggestions when they ask for them. Just trying to help you do it right the first time...b/c i didn't...and it sucked....so i like to help others do it right and save them the time and frustration. good luck, keep visiting here...u'll leard a lot. peace
NG

I know you don't think I need to worry about the rear speakers, but if I get the CDT CL's (80 watts each) what amp should I push them with? Should I pick something with 2X50 watts @ 4 ohms?

 

[OGButch 10+ year member]

yeah and i can back up everything ngsm13 is saying. capacitors are worthless and actually hurt unless u have an upgraded alternator. then its ok to go for just a 1 farad cap. Still wont do u much good though. Also, when u have a nice set of components up front powered by an amp u do Not need rear speakers. Trust me. if u want go for dedicated midbass drivers. Or get a 3 way component set.

Yeah, I think you and ngsm13 have sold me on the fact that I would be wasting my money on Capacitors.

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

I know you don't think I need to worry about the rear speakers, but if I get the CDT CL's (80 watts each) what amp should I push them with? Should I pick something with 2X50 watts @ 4 ohms?

i alway liked us acoustics amps. just because they are cheap doesn't meen they can't perform well. the usx 4085 is 85 watts rms x4 at 4 ohms. i have the 4065 running cdt cl-51 comps. and a pair of infinity 4x6 plates. the sq on them is great. there rms power is rated at 12.9 volts so if you have a decent charging system that amp will go well over rms power. plus there thd is .01% and s/n is like 100db's or over. i just like to give props to us acoustics whenever i can because i think they are great amps and would recommend them to anybody. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[OGButch 10+ year member]

i alway liked us acoustics amps. just because they are cheap doesn't meen they can't perform well. the usx 4085 is 85 watts rms x4 at 4 ohms. i have the 4065 running cdt cl-51 comps. and a pair of infinity 4x6 plates. the sq on them is great. there rms power is rated at 12.9 volts so if you have a decent charging system that amp will go well over rms power. plus there thd is .01% and s/n is like 100db's or over. i just like to give props to us acoustics whenever i can because i think they are great amps and would recommend them to anybody. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

How do you think US Acoustics compares to AudioBahn?

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

us acoutics is better. Check out the 4085...just extremely great build quality and a 3 YEAR warranty. I'e dealt personally with the usx4085, usx2080, and the usx2100. Solid amps, just great. peace

NG

 

[OGButch 10+ year member]

us acoutics is better. Check out the 4085...just extremely great build quality and a 3 YEAR warranty. I'e dealt personally with the usx4085, usx2080, and the usx2100. Solid amps, just great. peace
NG

What do you think about using the usx4085 to run the CDT HD-62 components and the CL-6x?

The HD-62's can take 180 watts from what I read at the home site

and the CL-6X can run 80 Watts RMS

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

What do you think about using the usx4085 to run the CDT HD-62 components and the CL-6x?The HD-62's can take 180 watts from what I read at the home site

and the CL-6X can run 80 Watts RMS

actually what i would do is get the usx 4085 and get a pair of the classic series cdt's at thezeb.com for $150. there would be no need really for the hd when you would only put half there rms power to them. i run the usx 4065 which is less power on a pair of cl-51 and they are plenty loud with good sq so i don't think you need to spend the money for the hd line when the classics will be just as good. and by the way to get the 3 year warranty you need to buy from an authorized dealer. i paid a little more and spent $129 for my usx 4065 and got it from crutchfield.com, but what i should've done was had sounddomain price match but oh well.