To everyones comments about the eye candies, they are some serious budget subs. 3" coil, double stack motor, they seem very well put together for the most part. Point being you cant beat them at the price point, period. Ive searched and tried subs and wasted money, and for that price you cant find anything that will get louder and handle as much power. Id like to run the subs on the ap3000 thats laying around, but we gotta get some more alternating juice first. The car can hold 13v steady at full tilt with the 1800 1 and the 1000 4 but i know it wont take the 3000. I think eventually hes gonna end up buying some more sundown gear from jacob and running that.