Anything comparable to the DEX-P9?

[Babs 10+ year member]

dva-9860 or 61 would control the 701 according to the specs.. I'd definitely try to go that route to eliminate the need for the control unit.. or go double din for easier control but it gets expensive fast.

 

[alphakenny1 10+ year member]

dva-9860 or 61 would control the 701 according to the specs.. I'd definitely try to go that route to eliminate the need for the control unit.. or go double din for easier control but it gets expensive fast.

i haven't used it myself but i know plenty of people who use the 9861/9860 but also have the controller. they say its MUCH easier to tune through the controller. i forgot what the limitations were tuning through the 9861/9860 though. i think it was something about the display of the menus and stuff.

 

[Babs 10+ year member]

I can imagine so.. I'd personally much rather be using a W200 or W205, etc 2-din touchscreen type.

 

[jluv 10+ year member]

I can imagine so.. I'd personally much rather be using a W200 or W205, etc 2-din touchscreen type.

Both are great for controlling the 701. Interestingly enough, the graphic eq display on the W200 was cooler than my W205. It actually showed a graph where you could get a visual idea of the entire frequency range for that channel. The W205 simply lists the frequencies and gives a value for each.

 

[Babs 10+ year member]

I just now got to hear a friend's system who's competing eventually (SQ)... Holy cow.. His source setup is a W200 / H701.. Three JL amps, Hybrid Audio mids in kick panels, Hybrid Audio tweets in modified A pillars, JL 8 mid-bass drivers in the doors, Single W6 sub. Lots of B-Quiet work throughout.. Nice custom sub enclosure.. All the new stuff finally broke in and he just did a tune up with some RTA software.. NICE! He's got the time alignment perfect and the eq is as flat as I've ever heard in any car. Man the imaging is spot on.. Nice wide sound stage at the perfect height. I think he'll fare very well with the car.. Nice job.. I'll try to find his cardomain link.

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2579094

I'm convinced.. the 701 processor is all you need.. send it a good optic signal, and the rest is in GOOD tuning and install.

 

[JonJT 10+ year member]

i haven't used it myself but i know plenty of people who use the 9861/9860 but also have the controller. they say its MUCH easier to tune through the controller. i forgot what the limitations were tuning through the 9861/9860 though. i think it was something about the display of the menus and stuff.

I looked through the H701 manual and I do believe it said that everything save for treble and bass adjustment would be possible with other Alpine HUs. I want full adjustability without a seperate controller....

 

[JonJT 10+ year member]

I can imagine so.. I'd personally much rather be using a W200 or W205, etc 2-din touchscreen type.

I can't use Apline Wxxx HUs. I NEED a screen for my car puter and the Wxxx units cannot double as a HU and a touchscreen for my car-puter.

 

[JonJT 10+ year member]

I just now got to hear a friend's system who's competing eventually (SQ)... Holy cow.. His source setup is a W200 / H701.. Three JL amps, Hybrid Audio mids in kick panels, Hybrid Audio tweets in modified A pillars, JL 8 mid-bass drivers in the doors, Single W6 sub. Lots of B-Quiet work throughout.. Nice custom sub enclosure.. All the new stuff finally broke in and he just did a tune up with some RTA software.. NICE! He's got the time alignment perfect and the eq is as flat as I've ever heard in any car. Man the imaging is spot on.. Nice wide sound stage at the perfect height. I think he'll fare very well with the car.. Nice job.. I'll try to find his cardomain link.
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2579094

I'm convinced.. the 701 processor is all you need.. send it a good optic signal, and the rest is in GOOD tuning and install.

The H701 might be nice but I don't think I can utilize all of its features without more money and hassle than a P9 combo. I cannot use a Wxxx HU as he did.

 

[~Magick_Man~ 10+ year member]

h701 + c701 + optical from carputer = teh win

if you can run a cd player/ radio directly from the carputer than that is all you need.

now if you have to have a headunit so you can use it for radio / cd player than i am not sure what to say short of buy the pioneer.

the pioneer is definitely a great unit but what i have seen in jntar's truck is it can be a pain at times to adjust the eq.

but that can also be said for the h701 so it is basically a toss up between the two.

if you can afford it i would say just go with the p9 and call it a day.

~Magick_Man~

 

[JonJT 10+ year member]

h701 + c701 + optical from carputer = teh winif you can run a cd player/ radio directly from the carputer than that is all you need.

now if you have to have a headunit so you can use it for radio / cd player than i am not sure what to say short of buy the pioneer.

the pioneer is definitely a great unit but what i have seen in jntar's truck is it can be a pain at times to adjust the eq.

but that can also be said for the h701 so it is basically a toss up between the two.

if you can afford it i would say just go with the p9 and call it a day.

~Magick_Man~

Thats what I want to do, buy the P9. It seems like it will be far easier to deal with.

I don't have provisions for radio reception through the car-puter. Although Radio programing these days almost makes that a nonissue........//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

If XM or Sirius offered local stations along with the other programing, I MIGHT consider that, but my limited experience tells me that Satelite radio plays the same crap as local stations do, they just do it over a broader range of channels and charge you for "content".

Basically, having radio is more of a novelity than anything else, BUT it just might be a novelity I don't want to give up.

As for CD play, that shouldn't be too much of a problem. I just wouldn't be able to mount the drive in-dash as the flip out screen and HU would be in the way. The placement would be ackward, but it COULD work. Also, I don't know how well these computer drives react to bumps and bass. I'd imagine they don't fair as well as drives designed for road use, thats another reason why I want a dedicated HU for CD playback.

This is really quite annoying. It seems I can't do what I want without either buying far more equipment than I want, searching for a product that is no longer made or spending tons of money for esoteric, exotic third party processors that can save the world all while crunching bits for your music. I find it throughly appalling that Apline didn't build FULL compatability with the H701 into their HUs. The processor is so old!!!! If they did, this would be an easy and cheap affair as I'd only need the HU to control volume, serve as a radio tuner, a CD transport and as a controller for the H701.............

But alas........guh! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/mad.gif.c18f003ab0ef8a0d9c27ca78d77a6392.gif

 

[Babs 10+ year member]

The H701 might be nice but I don't think I can utilize all of its features without more money and hassle than a P9 combo. I cannot use a Wxxx HU as he did.

Where to buy and how much is this P9 combo?

I thought it was pretty darn expensive.. and I'm not seeing too many places online where you could get one, other than the authorized specialty shops.

 

[JonJT 10+ year member]

Where to buy and how much is this P9 combo?
I thought it was pretty darn expensive.. and I'm not seeing too many places online where you could get one, other than the authorized specialty shops.

I'd get it used. I've heard they go for around 1K used.

To use the H701 I'd need the C701 and normal Alpine HU. That would be all well and good expect for the fact that the C701 goes for around 200 used! That 200 dollars could cover most of the cost for shipping, wires, deadening, glues, resins/epoxies, wood, fuses, cables, screws, raw metal, meters and carpeting.

 

[Igno 10+ year member]

I just wish someone would make a processor that's not proprietary with digital in

 

[Babs 10+ year member]

Agreed..

CD Laser --> 1's and 0's --> DAC/Processing --> Preamp to RCA's

The disc "player" would basically just become a CD transport with digital out.. Like a home theater setup.

One problem I see is the volume control is at the end at the analog level.. So you'd have to have some control upfront to that preamp.. AInet control over the 701 for example.

I almost think it's better to have all the reading, processing and preamp IN the head unit, but pull the power supply to external and NO internal power amp..

Ala DRZ9255.

OR at least if the OEM's had RCA preouts.. single flat-EQ left/right or 5.1 whatever.. wouldn't that be Sweeeet!~

 

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