After all they're not bad at all.

BMW Sidewayz
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Hello everyone.

Its seems that EVERYBODY makes a super sub-woofer now in these days (Appearance wise) . And in most cases the technical aspects of the English language are abused by giving most of these products self proclaimed tittles and descriptions like, " The BEST woofer I've ever tested" C&A Magazine to be exact which can make the consumer go bald in decision making.

I personally believe the L7 subs are not bad and while not the best sounding, they are also not the worst sounding and not to mention, in-expensive compared to others. I've been trying to come to a conclusion on which sub to use for my set-up, but I get mixed recommendations... L7's are bad sounding, JL W7s are over rated and expensive, Cdts are expensive, Etc , etc. For example, Yesterday I looked at my cousins year old 12w6v2 and the rubber around the speaker cone is rotted //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif and My brother has the HO110R-W7 rattled apart you can very loudly hear the wood rattle ling specially in the low notes, so much for JL claiming "Rock Solid" built. How can it be possible for products from a such highly credited company like JL have such defects? There's no xcuse for the surround to rot:mad: http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_enclosures_pages.php?menu=1&page_id=18

They're some of us here that swear by JL Audio, but not from what I've experienced. I was considering going with JL just because their rep, but not anymore. Im strongly considering the L7s in their "SQ" enclosure instead of JLs Highly priced 12w6v2 or 12w7.

S12L7 $225-$240

12w6v2 $350-$380

12W7 $520

I've owned a pair of both 10w6v2s and S12L7s, so I'm basing my opinion on my experiences with these products.

If you don't care much about $$ I guess JL would be the one, but if you like to get the best that your money can buy, you might re-consider.

PS: I remember My first set of C12A4 Kickers with my Bass Explosion USA 3 cd seeing peoples faces when driving down the streets:D and they were only $70.

 
I'm trying to figure out the point of this thread.
THAT JL IS OVER F-ING RATED! and that the L7s are not bad at all.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/slap.gif.87520e8ca8e90076ac30e777c0de5331.gif :slap: //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/slap.gif.87520e8ca8e90076ac30e777c0de5331.gif :slap:

and I would like to know what some of the members have to say, aside from Feeeg, NOOB, ETC.

Does anyone else feel the same way.

 
From what I hear Square Kickers aren't any better quality and have their own poblems...I have like 8 year old W0's with foam surrounds that are intact and still fully functional so his W6 must have been in direct sunlight or something...

IMO 280 compared to 380 is not exactly inexpensive... $150 compae to 380 is more in the inexpensive ballpark.

Why not get something different like A Stereo Interity sub or TC woofer of Fi if you want a break in price?

 
THAT JL IS OVER F-ING RATED! and that the L7s are not bad at all.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/slap.gif.87520e8ca8e90076ac30e777c0de5331.gif :slap: //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/slap.gif.87520e8ca8e90076ac30e777c0de5331.gif :slap:
and I would like to know what some of the members have to say, aside from ***, NOOB, ETC.

Does anyone else feel the same way.
instead of posting just pm civic si or cotjones.

 
THAT JL IS OVER F-ING RATED! and that the L7s are not bad at all.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/slap.gif.87520e8ca8e90076ac30e777c0de5331.gif :slap: //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/slap.gif.87520e8ca8e90076ac30e777c0de5331.gif :slap:
and I would like to know what some of the members have to say, aside from Feeeg, NOOB, ETC.

Does anyone else feel the same way.
We landed on the moon!

 
From what I hear Square Kickers aren't any better quality and have their own poblems...I have like 8 year old W0's with foam surrounds that are intact and still fully functional so his W6 must have been in direct sunlight or something...
IMO 280 compared to 380 is not exactly inexpensive... $150 compae to 380 is more in the inexpensive ballpark.

Why not get something different like A Stereo Interity sub or TC woofer of Fi if you want a break in price?
I not to worried about the price, im trying to budget myself around $400, but I wud like to get whats best for around $400. I just dont think is right for anybody to pay soooooooo much money for something thats not good in built quality. remember guys for JL Audio and other companies is a Busiiness and they have to make $$$ to us is a hobbie and some their life. I just want a 2 10" sub or a single 12 or 13.5 and I'm just trying to experience whats best. I believe that the only solution is to go to car shows and competitions, does anyone know any around NY or NJ area?

 
so wait.. im confused.. is this just a compare kicker square subs vs JL subs .. or is he asking what sub he should use or what..

The fact that you cant get an L7 to sound "good" is prolly from the box you use. The fact that a JL sub had a tear in its surround.. shit happens.. every sub will eventually fall apart. Thats why we get warranties.

get some PG RSD's if you don't like the above companies or something.

 
theres a DYNO day tomorrow in NJ and a few dudes from here are going....you could hear my car but im not gonna be able to make it..im going to the flyers v islanders game

 
From what I hear Square Kickers aren't any better quality and have their own poblems...I have like 8 year old W0's with foam surrounds that are intact and still fully functional so his W6 must have been in direct sunlight or something...
don't always believe what you hear is my motto.
 
For example, Yesterday I looked at my cousins year old 12w6v2 and the rubber around the speaker cone is rotted and My brother has the HO110R-W7 rattled apart you can very loudly hear the wood rattle ling specially in the low notes, so much for JL claiming "Rock Solid" built. How can it be possible for products from a such highly credited company like JL have such defects? There's no xcuse for the surround to rot
Did you ever think that mabye your cousin was really treating his subwoofer right as in proper install, proper box and a clean trunk environment? Rubber surrounds will not rot just after a couple of years, at least not the woofers ive had for a while now. Wouldnt rotting be a result of high humidity or water touching the surround?

 
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