ACTIVE X-OVER SPEAKER OWNERS: Please list your drivers and x-overs points?

[BodegaBay 10+ year member]

Thanks to alphakenny, squeak, max, foxpro and other veterans owners here who have given great info on using active crossover speakers in previous threads.

I just ditched my rearfill and will be exploring the 2-way active frontstage. I currently have an Eclipse 8455, DLS Iridium 6.2, and am demoing between a PG Xenon 200.4 and two MB Quart RAA2400. The DLS is working fine with the supplied passive crossover boxes. However, it's not as tight in the midbass as I want but it maybe that it just needs time to be broken in; maybe it will get better in an active setup as well. I'm not sure but I'm going to dive in to this active tweaking phenomenon...

Out of curiosity, may I ask the ACTIVE owners here what drivers, x-overs, and amplification you guys are using?

TWEETER

- Speaker Driver:

- Crossover HP & Slope:

- Amplifier Brand & Power:

MIDRANGE/MIDBASS

- Speaker Driver:

- Bandpass Crossover HP & Slope:

- Bandpass Crossover LP & Slope:

- Amplifier Brand & Power:

SUBWOOFER

- Speaker Driver:

- Crossover LP & Slope:

- Amplifier Brand & Power:

Thanks for making this fun again.

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[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

Tweeter

• Speaker Driver: Illusion CH1 horns
  
• Crossover HP & Slope: ~1khz @ 18db/oct (later was running @ 24db/oct when I started using my Eclipse 8053)
  
• Amplifier Power: ~5wpc //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/naughty.gif.94359f346c0f1259df8038d60b41863e.gif
  

MIDRANGE/MIDBASS

• Speaker Driver: Coustic DR-306P
  
• Bandpass Crossover HP & Slope: 52hz @ 12db/oct (w/ Eclipse 8053 63hz @ 12db/oct)
  
• Bandpass Crossover LP & Slope: ~800hz @ 18db/oct
  
• Amplifier Power: 75wpc w/ Coustic 505DR, later >100wpc w/ Coustic 510DR
  

 

[BodegaBay 10+ year member]

Thanks Squeak. I thought the flagship Eclipse H/Us had a bandpass option but I guess not (I remembered the Clarion DRZ had it when had it last year). I take it that you used the 8053 for the HP and the amp (or external x-over) for the LP when cofiguring your bandpass?

 

[Speedyd718 10+ year member]

check the sig for my setup. but i can't help ya with x-over pts just yet. since it's not installed. and the eclipse decks can bandpass.

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

Thanks Squeak. I thought the flagship Eclipse H/Us had a bandpass option but I guess not (I remembered the Clarion DRZ had it when had it last year). I take it that you used the 8053 for the HP and the amp (or external x-over) for the LP when cofiguring your bandpass?

The 8053 does have bandpass.....I just didn't change the lowpass frequency or slope when using the 8053, so I didn't bother to list it in that lowpass section since nothing changed //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Those amps actually don't have xovers in them //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

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Tweeter

• Speaker Driver: Image Dynamics CD2 HLCD fullbody
  
• Crossover HP & Slope: ~1.2khz @ 24db/oct
  
• Amplifier Brand & Power: Oldschool Memphis 6 channel ~38wpc @ 8ohms (more like 10wpc musically) //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/naughty.gif.94359f346c0f1259df8038d60b41863e.gif
  

MIDRANGE/MIDBASS

• Speaker Driver: Image Dynamics Chameleon 6.5 CX62
  
• Bandpass Crossover HP & Slope: ~65hz @ 24db/oct
  
• Bandpass Crossover LP & Slope: ~1khz @ 24db/oct
  
• Amplifier Brand & Power: Oldschool Memphis 6 channel 150wpc @ 2ohms
  

Subwoofers

• Speaker Driver: pair of Image Dynamics IDQ 15 dual 2, version 2
  
• Crossover LP & Slope: ~50hz @ 24db/oct
  
• Amplifier Brand & Power: Oldschool Memphis 6 channel ~600w x1 @ 2ohms bridged
  

even though you didnt mention my name in your thred //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/bawling.gif.6287aa5d1d447c8af063fc9466e822ef.gif

i hope that helped. its not 100% operational yet, i need to get my crossover back in, but it sounded GREAT when i had it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

i hope that helped. its not 100% operational yet, i need to get my crossover back in, but it sounded GREAT when i had it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Have you even gotten it back yet? Last I heard you had to send it off to Crossfire?

 

[BodegaBay 10+ year member]

Thanks for confirming the Eclipse's bandpass. I guessed I just missed it. Looks like there are more horn drivers than I thought! What do you guys think of yours and are they difficult to install?

Also, what's a guy to do with a tweeter when he only has a 200w (2-4Ohms) per channel amplifier? I guess it would be reduced to 100w with an 8Ohm driver, but would that kind of power still blow a tweeter?

 

[JAZN 5,000+ posts]

TWEETER

- Speaker Driver: Aurum Cantus G2Si

- Crossover HP & Slope: 2.5khz @ 24db/oct

- Amplifier Brand & Power: DLS A3, ~40w @ 6ohms

MIDRANGE/MIDBASS

- Speaker Driver: Adire Extremis

- Bandpass Crossover HP & Slope: 2.5khz @ 24db/oct

- Bandpass Crossover LP & Slope: 63hz @ 24db/oct

- Amplifier Brand & Power: DLS A4, 125w @8ohms

SUBWOOFER

- Speaker Driver: 2x Kicker Solobaric S8d

- Crossover LP & Slope: 63hz @ 24db/oct

- Amplifier Brand & Power: DLS A3, 250w @ 4ohms

That's what it was 6 weeks ago, when I actually had music in my car. Xover points are tenative, haven't installed everything so they'll probably change.

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

Thanks for confirming the Eclipse's bandpass. I guessed I just missed it. Looks like there are more horn drivers than I thought! What do you guys think of yours and are they difficult to install?

Sound = best I've heard.

Install? Not too hard at all.

Also, what's a guy to do with a tweeter when he only has a 200w (2-4Ohms) per channel amplifier? I guess it would be reduced to 100w with an 8Ohm driver, but would that kind of power still blow a tweeter?

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[JAZN 5,000+ posts]

I thought you sold your horns, Brad?

 

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well. you can just turn the gain down //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif

headroom is good.

basically, put mids on channel 1 and 2, and tweets on 3 and 4, and then you have two gain knobs per "side" of the amp (well, most 4 channel amps do at least) then you can use the gain formula in the amplifier forum sticky to figure out the wattage that you need //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

as far as sound goes, yes. horns are better than anything else ive listened to, ive listened to three different horn installs, and they have killed anything else from 1khz and up that ive ever listened to - IF you have the right EQ and crossover that is //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

and squeak, they are attempting to locate a new board in their warehouse. they found a box of stuff from about that time (amp boards and such) for repairs and stuff, and its like way up in the top back corner and they gotta get out the forklifts and shiz to get it down. so yea, its still there, but the customer service rep and i have great contact via email. if it was a new-er product, i bet it would ahve been back in a week or two. but its out of production like 5 years ago //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif

 

[3.5Max6spd 10+ year member]

TWEETER

*Rainbow POWER CS Cal 27 silk

*Xover/Slope 3.5khz 12db

*85rms x2 rated power

*Both tweets out of phase

* Drivers side tweet 1.5ms delay, pass side tweet 0.3ms delay

MIDRANGE

*USHER 9845c 3" soft dome midrange

*Xover/Slope 500hz/24db -> 2.5khz/18db

*85rms x2 rated power

* Passenger midrange out of phase

*Drivers side midrange 1.3ms delay

MIDBASS

*Morel Hybrid 8"

*~70hz/12db --> 550hz/24db

*270 rms x 2 rated power

*Drivers side Midbass 1.5ms delay, passenger side driver 0.3ms delay

SUBBASS

*2 Arc 12", 1.2 cu/ft sealed ea

*LP 80hz /24db

*525 rms x 2 rated power

 

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pretty sweet 3.5

you should come to syracuse this summer and show that beast off //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[BodegaBay 10+ year member]

An active 3-way front! Phew 3.5Max! You're using a 8455 right? Are you using some outboard processing as well?