6-½" Midbass Speakers?

[Kybasshead75]

it's subjective.

When I was 15 and 1990 and heard my first three-way crossed over active system on three different amps cleaned up and equalized I fell in love and haven't been able to fall out since. A three-way active crossover isn't very expensive and easy to hook up and allows a ton of sound adjustment increases preamp voltage signal to your amps it's just so worth it and you're end sound will reward you immensely!

 

[minicorndog]

When I was 15 and 1990 and heard my first three-way crossed over active system on three different amps cleaned up and equalized I fell in love and haven't been able to fall out since. A three-way active crossover isn't very expensive and easy to hook up and allows a ton of sound adjustment increases preamp voltage signal to your amps it's just so worth it and you're end sound will reward you immensely!

that'd be sick. I have 2 amps and it sounds good to me, but now I'm craving more highs. ear piercing highs. but I'm chilling for now.

 

[LsGuy]

that'd be sick. I have 2 amps and it sounds good to me, but now I'm craving more highs. ear piercing highs. but I'm chilling for now.

Grab the dayton dsp if you aren't running active. You may not need more power or speakers if you have the ability to tune for more highs.

 

[mastershake575 10+ year member]

it's subjective.

Eh not really. For a daily setup 95% of the frequencys will be coming from the front. You need active crossover points and good EQ. There's literally no getting around it

When I was 15 and 1990 and heard my first three-way crossed over active system on three different amps cleaned up and equalized I fell in love and haven't been able to fall out since. A three-way active crossover isn't very expensive and easy to hook up and allows a ton of sound adjustment increases preamp voltage signal to your amps it's just so worth it and you're end sound will reward you immensely!

Exactly. If your some kid who just wants to be loud and annoying then sure, blow all the budget on the subs. If you actually want a real daily setup for music then it's much more complex then throwing a bunch of stuff in your car and praying that it works (that's essentially what your doing in a passive setup)

 

[Kybasshead75]

that'd be sick. I have 2 amps and it sounds good to me, but now I'm craving more highs. ear piercing highs. but I'm chilling for now.

I'm the same way dude I've blown every set of tweeters I've had in component sets and prefer a sound that others would consider harsh. Probably from playing guitar for so long on good amps loud enough to hear myself playing with everybody else.
I moved up to high sensitivity pioneer super tweeters horn style with titanium and definitely did the job for me in my last system. They will bring guitar solos and symbols to life in a way nothing else can when running off their own amp filtering everything out best thing I ever did!!
I just picked up some MTX RTX 12-inch mid bass and four of the RTX 4-in titanium horn tweeters and going to test them out soon on that same 600 watt pioneer digital 4-channel amp I have. Pretty sure that should be plenty loud enough I'd say just two of those tweeters will be quite a bit.

 

[LsGuy]

I'm the same way dude I've blown every set of tweeters I've had in component sets and prefer a sound that others would consider harsh. Probably from playing guitar for so long on good amps loud enough to hear myself playing with everybody else.
I moved up to high sensitivity pioneer super tweeters horn style with titanium and definitely did the job for me in my last system. They will bring guitar solos and symbols to life in a way nothing else can when running off their own amp filtering everything out best thing I ever did!!
I just picked up some MTX RTX 12-inch mid bass and four of the RTX 4-in titanium horn tweeters and going to test them out soon on that same 600 watt pioneer digital 4-channel amp I have. Pretty sure that should be plenty loud enough I'd say just two of those tweeters will be quite a bit.

Cheaper hard domestic tweeters are generally shrill, though I don't consider guitar solos necessarily tweeter duty. They add to the overall image and bring out the top end, but in tuning my system per speaker I've noticed most of the depth generally is coming from my mids (3 way active). It is all about ensuring proper tuning regardless of the driver. In my system (soft dome tweeters with only 65 watts rms), I tuned the upper ends of the tweeters down, and I had to back the volume off on the tweets vs the mids and midbass because I'm honestly convinced that at the volumes I listen to they would make your ears bleed. No joke man they can get insanely loud and way too bright. If you are running passive then the tuning and volume of tweets is limited by the crossover.

 

[Kybasshead75]

Cheaper hard domestic tweeters are generally shrill, though I don't consider guitar solos necessarily tweeter duty. They add to the overall image and bring out the top end, but in tuning my system per speaker I've noticed most of the depth generally is coming from my mids (3 way active). It is all about ensuring proper tuning regardless of the driver. In my system (soft dome tweeters with only 65 watts rms), I tuned the upper ends of the tweeters down, and I had to back the volume off on the tweets vs the mids and midbass because I'm honestly convinced that at the volumes I listen to they would make your ears bleed. No joke man they can get insanely loud and way too bright. If you are running passive then the tuning and volume of tweets is limited by the crossover.

Yeah I can't stand running passive I still got to get the system installed in my new ride definitely going to do three-way active like I always do. I just tested these tweeters and just two of them are like you said kind of like wild animals that need to be tamed I'm sure I can adjust them when I get the crossover and amps put in.
If I end up not liking the way they blend what's a good musical tweeter in your opinion. tweets aren't too expensive and I'm down to try anything new!
Once you get an ear for three-way active on three different amps you'll never like passive again most definitely.

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

it's one of my pet peeves. People will spend well over a grand on substage and electrical but the stuff that actually matters (front speakers, digital processing / tuning, proper two or three layer sound deadening treatment) nobody ever wants to do. For daily those should be absolute priority number 1

First off, I don't have any room for the Dayton DSP. I currently have amps under both seats. I would have to mount the Dayton to the sub box or inside of the console. Secondly, I tried the Dayton before and ended up switching to a 4 way electronic crossover. I will sound deaden the doors when I'm changing the speakers out, that isn't a problem. I'm just looking to run 4-6-½'s and two super tweeters in the stock locations. I believe that the Steven's 6-½'s are actually midrange speakers. So, I might be alright with my four channel amp.

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

@Popwarhomie Would you pick the Silver Flutes over the Steven's?

 

[Popwarhomie 5,000+ posts]

MB-6 is double the price of Silver Flutes.
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[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

MB-6 is double the price of Silver Flutes.
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So, I wouldn't be able to hear an audible difference between the two? I'm probably going to get the Sundown SFB200.4 for my mids/highs. 136 watts x 4 @ 2 ohms. I will be removing 4- 6-½" coaxials. Two Infinity reference and two Polk Audio's. I will still have the Fosgate super tweets (pp-4t) in the dash locations.

 

[Kybasshead75]

First off, I don't have any room for the Dayton DSP. I currently have amps under both seats. I would have to mount the Dayton to the sub box or inside of the console. Secondly, I tried the Dayton before and ended up switching to a 4 way electronic crossover. I will sound deaden the doors when I'm changing the speakers out, that isn't a problem. I'm just looking to run 4-6-½'s and two super tweeters in the stock locations. I believe that the Steven's 6-½'s are actually midrange speakers. So, I might be alright with my four channel amp.

Man I remember I had to go to the shop and have my buddy cut out and weld recess floor panels in my old s-10 just to fit my two amps under the seats I didn't have room for anything else after the sub box was put back there. A small three-way active crossover is my favorite!

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

Man I remember I had to go to the shop and have my buddy cut out and weld recess floor panels in my old stem just to fit my two amps under the seats I didn't have room for anything else after the sub box was put back there. A small three-way active crossover is my favorite!

Too many people look down on you if you run an electronic crossover these days. I was running a four way crossover and people shiit on me. It was a tweeter, mid-range, mid-bass, and sub electronic crossover. I was running the Taramps four way crossover with a two channel amp, a four channel amp, and a mono amp for the bass. That pic was before I dumped the DSP for the electronic crossover.

 

[Popwarhomie 5,000+ posts]

So, I wouldn't be able to hear an audible difference between the two? I'm probably going to get the Sundown SFB200.4 for my mids/highs. 136 watts x 4 @ 2 ohms. I will be removing 4- 6-½" coaxials. Two Infinity reference and two Polk Audio's. I will still have the Fosgate super tweets (pp-4t) in the dash locations.

The Silver Flutes play pretty flat from 60hz to 3000hz.
The MB-6s decently flat from 125hz to 7000hz.

Those tweeters recommend a 4.5k crossover so I would do the Stevens MB-6s to pair with them.

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

The Silver Flutes play pretty flat from 60hz to 2500hz.
The MB-6s decently flat from 125hz to 7000hz.

Those tweeters recommend a 4.5k crossover so I would do the Stevens MB-6s to pair with them.

The MB-6's are more of a midrange with the accordion style surround.