2 18" in an explorer sport

go with the 4 mj18 like everone is saying... 225 dollars for 4 18s!!! Not to mention will work perfect with that amp. 4 8ohmers for a 2 ohm load giving them ~700 a piece, look out loud daily driver!

 
One thing to add as well, because Bamaboy's box is so big, I do believe he is suffering a little SPL output loss due to basically choking the box. If you do 12 cubes, you'll need to shrink the depth and increase the height so the box is far away enough from the rear hatch to allow for proper airflow. Just my $.02.

 
Matrxx ran 3.5 cubes tuned at 37hz, but it was pretty much competition only. He listened to it daily, but it wasnt built for that. Also at one point he had 12000 watts on it hence the box size.
That is what I thought. This goes hand in hand with what I said about cubic volume requirements and power on tap.

 
Goldtaz - wow...your posts are exactly the kind of info i was looking for! one main concern was "choking" the box like you said. i understand the box size vs power thing, but im not familiar with the Bl's and have no idea how they handle the power. i heard 1meangta was putting something like 1.6-1.8kw on each one of his 15's and only then did they really start moving. i simply dont have the electrical to back that up, so i would need to go with a larger box to compensate. not to mention ive read that most birthsheets are just a randomly generated number within a range. so my birthsheet rated 2960w rms kx2500.1 might not even put out that extra 500 watts. sure 500 watts isnt that much, but it will factor into the final product in one way or another. if it truly did 2960 @ 2 ohms, i could wire it down to 1 ohm on d1 bl's and have what i would consider a decent amount of power on them.

quick question about the box height, is there a point when adding height to the box will start to hurt spl? just like choking against the back hatch, will a really tall force sound to try to travel around the box? dont know if that makes sense.

edit: also yes the guy at SSA has 2 18" q's like you said Goldtaz.

also i appreciate everyones suggestions, advice etc. thank you

 
Yeah, I hate to say it, but I don't have any experience with the BL's either (only the Q's and BTL's). Suffice it to say though, I think the BL's have a stiff spider configuration much like the BTL, but you may want to check me on that one. I think the stiffness of the spiders play a part in what kind power it takes to get the woofer going, but I can't be sure. I think, in the situation you described above, that it would be a better idea to perhaps go with (2) properly ported 15's. Even though the 18's have a distinct cone area advantage, I am gravely afraid that you may wind up choking the box to death if you do 18's in a large box and in turn you won't really get much out of doing 18's vs. 15's. I'm not sure that I am the most qualified person to answer your question about the height, but I'll give it my best shot. I think you are definitely on to something about the box being so tall that SPL begins to diminish because let's face it, most of the airflow will be passing across the top of the enclosure with a typical CRX style box. If your box is obnoxiously tall then process of elimination may end up dictating that the sides would be responsible for the majority of airflow resulting in perhaps a system not quite as loud as it could be if you went with say 2 15's in a properly ported box.

I don't want to make your mind up for you in any way, but I do hope what I've said helps. I hope that some of the more knowledgeable folks around here will chime in for you and provide some perspective as well. Perhaps Nick, Shawn, ng, or someone with some technical savy can help out on this one.

 
thats no joke right there //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wow.gif.23d729408e9177caa2a0ed6a2ba6588e.gif

edit: by the way if anyone has any names, links, posts, on something similar feel free to post it. ive only found a few threads (one was SHiZNiLTi's) and they werent too helpful. google didnt help either. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

double edit: woops the BL's are actually dual .7 or dual 1.5, not 1.7.

triple edit: happened to find a nice little post at ssa about a guy with 2 18's in a mountaineer //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif . hopefully he can give me some answers
think u could link me up..i wanna do 2 18" BL in my 2dr jeep..

 
it also does 49's at 35hz
i heard for myself...these subs get loud and hit the lows like no other

i was shocked...but if u dont get those subs get 2 bl 18;s and slap them in 12cubes or wall it and get around 16cubes tuned to 32hz with 190 square inch port and theres ur loud daily setup

80

 
i heard for myself...these subs get loud and hit the lows like no otheri was shocked...but if u dont get those subs get 2 bl 18;s and slap them in 12cubes or wall it and get around 16cubes tuned to 32hz with 190 square inch port and theres ur loud daily setup

80
Goldtaz - thank you. youve been a lot of help whether you know it or not. sometimes we just need someone to either agree or disagree with us. getting feedback is always a good thing. theres alwyas a chance that someone has a better idea of what your chances are of accomplishing a goal than yourself, and hearing them out is often a great idea. any kind of feedback is better than none.

80 - well thats the issue, i can easily fit 2 18's ported in my truck. thats no problem. the problem is knowing (or in this case, NOT knowing) what the limits are as far as box size before you start to get a detrimental effect. having 2 15's installed properly is going to be a better idea than having 2 18's that have no other choice than to be walled off if a negative effect isnt desirable. walling off is really not an option to me. not because i cant, but because i simply dont want to do the extra effort and spending the extra money to make sure its braced to shit, and sealed off properly.

 
Is the hatch smaller in a sport compared to a 4dr? Cause ive had a 7.5 sealed box in my explorer and i couldve made it quit bigger. It was probably 5 inches higher than the headrest and 13 inches away from the hatch. Im intrested in this, 2 18s would be sick in an explorer. How bout some rlps?

 
Is the hatch smaller in a sport compared to a 4dr? Cause ive had a 7.5 sealed box in my explorer and i couldve made it quit bigger. It was probably 5 inches higher than the headrest and 13 inches away from the hatch. Im intrested in this, 2 18s would be sick in an explorer. How bout some rlps?
the hatch is a decent bit smaller. at least a 98 sport compared to my friends 96 xlt it is.

ive fit what was about a 9 cube box going up to the headrests and about 6 inches or so away from the hatch. that was with my amps sitting between the box and the seats loosing about 2" that way as well.

i have looked at the rlps, but just dont really want them. i have experience with old RE stuff, so thats why im looking into FI. i trust scott and his designs.

 
go with 1 18 mt or btl in 7.0 cubes with the power you have it will hit like hell,i had 1 18 in my explorer doing 153's on the term,but thats with alot of power,i had the 18 mt in 7.0 cubes with 100 sq inches of port with a hifonics collossus on it and it done 149 on the term and sounded dam good.

 
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