10" subs for small sealed box


Crsracing

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So I just picked up a new car (2001 audi a4) and have spent about the last week trying to figure out what I want to do for the stereo. I'm still not sure I'm any closer but do know I need more help then just searching can provide on sub selection.

Enclosure type, I do have a pretty large trunk but I use it often and really dont want to give up the space so I want to do custom fit sealed boxes between the wheel wells and taillights on each side due to that I'm limited to small sealed boxes.

Budget, while less is better obviously. I will save up or buy used so I can do it right the first time.

Subs I am considering
Idq thought about it originally but read some reviews that made me rethink that
Idmax would probably give me the output and quality I want but is on the larger side and more $$$
Sundown sd3 worried it wont have enough output
Sundown sa10 always wanted to try them but dont think they would run well sealed

Benchmark/expectations
I set my gf's car up with 2 10w6v2 jl's sealed at 1cu ft each running off a jl hd1200 and am really happy with how it sounds but would honestly like it to hit a little harder. These could be an option to as she wants more so I will probably end up building a ported box or getting her 12w6v2 and then I could put them in my car but in even less space I doubt I would be happy.

Why not a 12,
I'm mostly worried about not being able to provide enough airspace also in the past I have always liked 10's better. But a si sql 12 was suggested to me and I'm very intrigued by it and it's a possible contender now to.

Thanks in advance for any help I have tried searching but everything seems to wind up talking about ported. If any one has any recommended links for me to read that would be great to been slowly making my way through the sticky that has the recommended links
 

scparrish

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How much power will you be running? After you know that you will have to decide what airspace you are willing to use. I have heard great things about the idmax in sealed along ssa gcon and icon in sealed. More power will get you more output.
 
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Crsracing

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I don't have my amps yet so I will get whatever power the subs I end up with need. Hopefully later today i can get some measurements to get a better idea of what kind of airspace I can provide. I had heard the dayton rs ho's recommend but just didn't feel like they would give the output I wanted. I wonder how the ultimax would stack up against the idmax :unsure:
 

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Keep your subs and amp. Put the JL's in a ported box bro. No bullshit. JL recommends 1.25 cubes each.
 
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Crsracing

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The 10w6's are in my gf's car and the only way I get those is if we get her 12w6's. I need something for my new car.
 

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I got a pair of sundown sd4 10"s in my truck. I was pretty blown away how low and loud they get for being in such a tiny box
.5 cubes each. I didn't expect much coming from a pair of x10's but was pretty happy with the output and the fact that I have a back seat now
 

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The 10w6's are in my gf's car and the only way I get those is if we get her 12w6's. I need something for my new car.
Yep, that was my fault. Misread original post. Main question is how much room do you want to take up? Basically need to know what size box.
 

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I’m doing the 10 inch ultimax in 4th order bandpass. Im getting a nice flat response in software from 32-90 hz, and the box is so goddamn small it was a challenge to fit the driver in there the way I want (I want the motor in the sealed section in case there is some motor noise on these). i had a Dayton reference series 10 in a sealed box, and it seemed louder to my ear than my JL 10w6 was. The JL W6 was probably my favorite sub back when I was building boxes for profit. I’m sure it’s still the good quality sub it always was, with a large price tag. I’m excited to order the Dayton ultimax and run it through the 3 boxes I usually do when I buy a sub. 4th order is first, since that’s why I chose it in the first place, but I will try it sealed and a small ported box with a super low tuning. 28 hz if I can make it work.
 
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Crsracing

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How does the gcon compare to the icon performance wise? I was checking them out and it comes in a 10 and needs a lot less airspace but has the same xmax and doesn't need as much power to get there. I've been trying for the last couple days to find time to pull the interior panels in the trunk to get accurate measurements of how much space I can provide.
 
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How does the gcon compare to the icon performance wise? I was checking them out and it comes in a 10 and needs a lot less airspace but has the same xmax and doesn't need as much power to get there. I've been trying for the last couple days to find time to pull the interior panels in the trunk to get accurate measurements of how much space I can provide.
@denim might be able to answer this since he works for SSA.
 
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Squirrel!

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That would be great if he wanted to. I have definitely looked into the Daytons but I've seen reports of QC and build quality issues that dont make it as easy of choice.
Not sure about in a car, but I have a 12" HO (1000w plate amp) and a 12" HF (500w plate amp) in my home system for about 7-8 years now I guess it's been. Zero QC issues at all. And as an aside, I just ordered a Dayton Audio LS10-44 10" Low Profile Subwoofer, Dual 4 Ohm for myself. I went that route because after seeing all these cheap subs, I know Dayton will sound excellent and I have no concerns of quality issues. https://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-ls10-44-10-low-profile-subwoofer-dual-4-ohm--295-251
 

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That would be great if he wanted to. I have definitely looked into the Daytons but I've seen reports of QC and build quality issues that dont make it as easy of choice.
If you mean the low profile Dayton (LS-10), mine didn’t last. Was my go to sub due to lack of space in a single cab. Had coil issues. After a short period, it would only play if I applied pressure to the cone. Got rid of it!
 
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Ridinhi

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Not sure about in a car, but I have a 12" HO (1000w plate amp) and a 12" HF (500w plate amp) in my home system for about 7-8 years now I guess it's been. Zero QC issues at all. And as an aside, I just ordered a Dayton Audio LS10-44 10" Low Profile Subwoofer, Dual 4 Ohm for myself. I went that route because after seeing all these cheap subs, I know Dayton will sound excellent and I have no concerns of quality issues. https://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-ls10-44-10-low-profile-subwoofer-dual-4-ohm--295-251
don't worry man, could have just been a bad one out of the bunch. it was under warranty but I just wanted to go a different route anyways.
 
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BCotrell

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Little slimmy woofers aren’t going to help you achieve harder hitting than your ol lady. Does her sub stage fire toward the trunk lid? I ask b/c Firing direction is going to impact the result of the output so if you’re going sealed why not keep your depth minimal and adjust for increased Wxh to achieve proper volume. Those trunks fit multiple bodies in em so are you really going to max out every cubic inch all the way to the back seat. I’d understand if you were going ported but a real woofer like that ultimax is less than 6” in mounting depth so you can be around 12” or even slightly less in total depth. Also easier wiring job too.

I know it’s not a woofer recommendation but the scenario you outline isn’t going to create an apples to apples environment compared to gf, and you said you want harder hitting then hers. Two ultimax’s on an md1800.2 would be my pick over that jl setup.
 
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Crsracing

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I wasn't really looking at slims with the exception of the sd3 as that was there sealed box offering I can get about 7" of mounting depth in my intended location. Issue is I measured roughly the other day and I can get about .65 cubes on each side probably a little more when things are said and done. Her subs fire forward towards the seat and jl wouldn't be my first pick either but she likes them for sentimental reasons. Wxh ? I'm not familiar with that term. And I actually do use all my trunk including putting the seats down and using the ski pass through for lumber, shovel, etc.
 

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