YAY! To Judge Ruling Against ID Being Taught In Science Class

[Bigrick31 10+ year member]

I saw this issue on Pen and tellers BullSh1t (some show that was on for a while not sure if its still on but it was a great show non the less. personally id be pissed if i were in a Public school and was forced to take an ID class. IF you want to learn about that go to a private school or do some research of your own. I am not a religious person at all i have no religion and pretty much beleive in science. but i can see the other point of view where as some people want ID to be tought in "School" if that is what they beleive in they may feel that evolution is false and therefore a waste of their time to study the subject in school. its the same way i would feel had i been forced to learn ID. however isnt there supposed to be a seperation between church and state. and wouldnt ID be considered religious and therefore should not be tought in a public "State" school. Im glad to hear the rueling.

 

[HiAmplidude 10+ year member]

This post is number 666

Coincidence? I think not.

 

[bikejunkie223 10+ year member]

X ~ a billion...

that must have been some burrito!//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/uhoh.gif.c07307dd22ee7e63e22fc8e9c614d1fd.gif

 

[bikejunkie223 10+ year member]

This post is number 666
Coincidence? I think not.

^ no, that was god's will

 

[HeatSeeker 10+ year member]

When read to oneself, and not by your preacher or minister, the bible is a pretty horrific and disturbing book. Not something I would ever follow........

 

[SirSyko 10+ year member]

Yes I love Tool, especially when Im stoned. I dont obey everything, I sin a lot. Nobody even knows the exact meanings of their songs. I fail to see what this has to do with the topic at hand.

That post reeks of ignorance. Complexity does not imply ID.

No, but it certainly rules out evolution.

Go buy a box of tooth pics. Open the box and drop all the toothpics on the floor. Do you see any letters? Yeah im sure there are. Do you see any words? Its possible, a simple word. Do you see a sentence? If not, drop it a few more times, maybe you can make a one that will make sence. Now can you make a paragraph?(You will need a few more boxes) A story? Never. Cells are even harder to make than words out of toothpics.

 

[Hundreth 10+ year member]

No, but it certainly rules out evolution.

Go buy a box of tooth pics. Open the box and drop all the toothpics on the floor. Do you see any letters? Yeah im sure there are. Do you see any words? Its possible, a simple word. Do you see a sentence? If not, drop it a few more times, maybe you can make a one that will make sence. Now can you make a paragraph?(You will need a few more boxes) A story? Never. Cells are even harder to make than words out of toothpics.

Whether evolution is true or not has absolutely no weight on the topic at hand. The topic is... Should ID be taught in science class?

So far, everything leads me to a resounding NO.

 

[Gawd 10+ year member]

Some of you are so ****ing stupid that not even i love you

 

[adio 5,000+ posts]

That post reeks of ignorance. Complexity does not imply ID. To quote Spinoza:
"If a stone has fallen from a room onto someone's head and killed him, they will show, in the following way, that the stone fell in order to kill the man. For if it did not fall to that end, God willing it, how could so many circumstances have concurred by chance (for often many circumstances do concur at once)? Perhaps you will answer that it happened because the wind was blowing hard and the man was walking that way. But they will persist: why was the wind blowing hard at that time? why was the man walking that way at that time? If you answer again that the wind arose then because on the preceding day, while the weather was still calm, the sea began to toss, and that the man had been invited by a friend, they will press on -- for there is no end to the questions which can be asked: but why was the sea tossing? why was the man invited at just that time? And so they will not stop asking for the causes of causes until you take refuge in the will of God, i.e., the sanctuary of ignorance. (I, Appendix)"

ok, what does this post imply??

 

[adio 5,000+ posts]

When read to oneself, and not by your preacher or minister, the bible is a pretty horrific and disturbing book. Not something I would ever follow........

best bible to read without a preacher or minister is a life application study bible .

 

[adio 5,000+ posts]

Yes I love Tool, especially when Im stoned. I dont obey everything, I sin a lot. Nobody even knows the exact meanings of their songs. I fail to see what this has to do with the topic at hand.


No, but it certainly rules out evolution.

Go buy a box of tooth pics. Open the box and drop all the toothpics on the floor. Do you see any letters? Yeah im sure there are. Do you see any words? Its possible, a simple word. Do you see a sentence? If not, drop it a few more times, maybe you can make a one that will make sence. Now can you make a paragraph?(You will need a few more boxes) A story? Never. Cells are even harder to make than words out of toothpics.

wow, this is great. i wish i woulda used this example.

and too piggyback, how many tmes do you think you would have to drop that box of toothpicks to make a paragraph??????? get a number for that then multiply that by the number of people that have to drop boxes of toothpicks to make paragraphs themselves.

 

[adio 5,000+ posts]

Whether evolution is true or not has absolutely no weight on the topic at hand. The topic is... Should ID be taught in science class?So far, everything leads me to a resounding NO.

ur right, and i say yes it should along with evolution

 

[adio 5,000+ posts]

is there ever such a thing as effect without cause (big bang theory)?

can life come from non-life (non-living bacteria coming to life and evolving)?

if your answer to both of these is a 100% yes, regardless of what your explanation is, we are idiots to each other and we all wasted time explaining to each other all 14 -15 pages of this stuff

 

[HeatSeeker 10+ year member]

now do you mean here as we know it with stars and planets other than earth or here as in just blackness with no stars or planets?which brings us back to the question, is there ever such a thing as effect without cause? the effect is the big bang; what was the cause?

Who knows? There is so much more to this universe than we even see right now, I think it is impossible to speculate what it was like before the big bang or what caused it. For example, opposing pairs of virtual particles pop into existence all the time, seeminlgy out of nowhere. Where do they come from? who knows. Normally they annihilate each other instantly, but at the event horizon of a black hole, one is sucked in and the other thrown out into space. Something from "nothing". Maybe there was already something here before our universe was formed, and something triggered to cause it to expand.

 

[HeatSeeker 10+ year member]

And according to Christians, life can come from non life. God made Adam out of mud after all....