YAY! To Judge Ruling Against ID Being Taught In Science Class

[bikejunkie223 10+ year member]

^lol

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

Science has nothing to say one way or the other about the existence of God or about people's spiritual beliefs.

And thank you //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif You just explained why ID should not be part of the science cirriculum in the public education system.....which is what this whole thread was about.

 

[adio 5,000+ posts]

And thank you //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif You just explained why ID should not be part of the science cirriculum in the public education system.....which is what this whole thread was about.

au contraire, squeak-air, that sentence is only 50% of it. the other half is since science has nothing to say about GOD, the issue isn't even adressesed i.e. making learning lopsided which doesn't lead to a well-rounded education or thought process in regards to mans origins.

 

[HiAmplidude 10+ year member]

There are other/better places in the educational cirriculum for ID.

Just because it is not included in a science class, math class, economics class, wood shop, doesn't necessarily mean that it is stricken from learning.

 

[adio 5,000+ posts]

There are other/better places in the educational cirriculum for ID.
Just because it is not included in a science class, math class, economics class, wood shop, doesn't necessarily mean that it is stricken from learning.

places like where, church, mosques and synagogues?? teach ID there and it'll be lopsided as well, absolutely discounting anything about evolution. balance would be best provided by schools.

 

[HeatSeeker 10+ year member]

wrong. something was already living (God) and created something living (man)

So then, where did God come from?

 

[HeatSeeker 10+ year member]

Also, I don't see what evolution has to do with ID, at all. Evolution is the process of things happening. ID is a "theory" of how it started. It's like taking a course about how computers work, doesnt have to say where the first computer was concived. One has nothing to do with the other.

 

[adio 5,000+ posts]

Also, I don't see what evolution has to do with ID, at all. Evolution is the process of things happening. ID is a "theory" of how it started. It's like taking a course about how computers work, doesnt have to say where the first computer was concived. One has nothing to do with the other.

evolution is a theory too.

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

au contraire, squeak-air, that sentence is only 50% of it. the other half is since science has nothing to say about GOD, the issue isn't even adressesed

Exactly! Because the existant of god or an intelligent being is NOT science! I have no idea why, but for some reason you are not comprehending this.

i.e. making learning lopsided which doesn't lead to a well-rounded education or thought process in regards to mans origins.

Lopsided? How is teaching SCIENCE in a SCIENCE cirriculum, and excluding those things that are NOT SCIENCE lopsided?

Again, I'm not sure why....but you are not comprehending that ID (or the existance of "god") is not and can not be science.

 

[Eugenics 5,000+ posts]

a theory backed by evidence

 

[HeatSeeker 10+ year member]

Theyre theories of two different subjects. id states how it started, evolution describes the actaul process.

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

evolution is a theory too.

But evolution is a scientific theory....something ID CAN NEVER be.

 

[HiAmplidude 10+ year member]

places like where, church, mosques and synagogues?? teach ID there and it'll be lopsided as well, absolutely discounting anything about evolution. balance would be best provided by schools.

Dude, relax -- I know you're pretty worked up about this topic, but please take a breath and listen to what is being said and not just what you're hearing/feeling. Nobody is ganging up against your beliefs.

I am not against ID or God in any way. I just don't think that the subject matter belongs in a science-specific class. Scientific teaching doesn't say "God doesn't exist and didn't create the Earth"... it says, "the pigment of this layer of earth is this color because of a large amount of X element in its contents." You can't necessarily throw in....".... and that's because God created the Earth and that's where he wanted that element to be." There's no way for ID to add to the learning of SCIENCE topics.

Even saying that there WAS a "big bang" doesn't discount God. He could have been the brains behind the explosion. That's not what we're talking about. "Big bang" is a theory. There is some evidence that shows it could have happened that way and not all scientists believe that a big explosion started everything. Their theories (backed by evidence) should be taught as well....

Perhaps a Bible Studies class, or other class is fine. You pick.

I could make this a much longer reply, but I've already posted all that I care to on this thread. I think it's been long over-done anyway.

 

[HeatSeeker 10+ year member]

But evolution is a scientific theory....something ID CAN NEVER be.

Yup, I can imagine an ID course.

"some magic fairy in the sky created us all as we are now, end of semester"

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

Exactly! Because the existant of god or an intelligent being is NOT science! I have no idea why, but for some reason you are not comprehending this.


Lopsided? How is teaching SCIENCE in a SCIENCE cirriculum, and excluding those things that are NOT SCIENCE lopsided?

Again, I'm not sure why....but you are not comprehending that ID (or the existance of "god") is not and can not be science.

And I should add....as HiAmplitude pointed out....I'm not saying you are wrong for believing in god (even though I myself do not believe), or that you can not hold your belief in intelligent design and god......only to not place it were it doesn't belong....along side science and in a science cirriculum! Because science it is not.