yeah xtant has kinda fell in depenability, durability and sound, my buddy has 4 old xtant 10's.. i think he bought them in the early 90's and he uses them today and they are svc's and god **** they hit hard.. and hes runnin some amps from like the 90's and like its all vintage stuff and yet it sounds better and hits harder than half of the schmuks that spend 1000 dollars at best buy opr circuit city and have them do it all.....