why that was nice

[fatryan 5,000+ posts]

You guys DO realize that not only is Faulkton full of shit, but that he can't even form opinions of his own and has to copy ones from other places.
http://www.justiceforanimals.co.za/anti_hunting.html

(Nothin' but love, Faulkton. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif )

^^^ Thats sad

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

well its quite apparent that spelling is the only thing your dumb *** can come up with to make fun of me with, so ill spare you more embarrassment
btw, even in grad school soc will get you nowhere

And what exactly are you training to be again?

 

[fatryan 5,000+ posts]

And what exactly are you training to be again?

civil engineer //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[Lunchbocks 10+ year member]

Hunters are killers, plain and simple. Let us not mince words. Hunters try to justify their violent pastime, but whatever they say to the contrary, hunting is the premeditated, cold-blooded killing of innocent animals.
The object of the hunt is to kill animals. Hunters argue that it is not just about killing. They claim that the camaraderie, nature appreciation, exercise, nature education, and so-called conservation benefits are just as important a part of the hunt as the actual killing or attempted killing of the target animal.

But most people can appreciate and learn about nature and also contribute to nature conservation efforts without having to kill animals, and by doing their shooting with a camera instead of a gun or bow.

It is ludicrous to believe that someone who actively sets out to kill a healthy animal for fun, trophy or profit really cares about wild animals specifically or nature in general. Photographs of smiling hunters posing with their dead victims hardly reflect the kind of “caring” that most normal people relate to. If hunters are the “true” conservationists they claim to be, and really do care about animals, they would pursue every humane, non-lethal possibility or means of caring for wild animals and the environment. Instead, their solution to any perceived problem with animals is to reach for the gun. Why is it that hunters, as so-called conservationists, are interested only in those animals that are most attractive as trophies, most enjoyable to eat or most “challenging” to hunt?

Hunting is wrong because for no good reason it violates the most basic right of any living creature – the right to life. According to hunters, they only shoot animals who are surplus or excessive to the carrying capacity of the land or who are old or injured . They claim that their killing is done for humane and practical reasons, and that an untimely death by bullet or arrow is preferable to death from natural causes.

All of this presumes that animals who are killed or wounded by human hunters, endure less fear, stress and pain than those animals dying from natural causes, including predation.

It is a fact that hunters kill for the pleasure, the satisfaction and the boost it gives their fragile egos. This makes killing seem like an honorable pastime that others should strive to emulate. It relegates animals to the status of utility items that exist to pleasure humans, and if that pleasure lies in the killing of an animal, then so be it.

Hunting simply perpetuates the ethically indefensible conception that animals exist for humans. And nothing more emphatically emphasises this misconception than when humans deliberately track down a wild animal and kill it for fun, trophy or profit. This shows an absolute disregard by hunters for the right of wild animals to live out their lives as nature intended, in circumstances which allow them to enjoy the diverse experiences of living in their natural environment. And for as long as hunters are allowed to conduct their bloody war on innocent wild animals with the sanction of civil society, then every human in that society shares in the guilt of the wrongdoing.

Considering the weapons used by hunters today, it is an understatement to say that a targeted animal has little or no chance of avoiding being killed or wounded. The distance from which a hunter can deliver a fatal shot far exceeds the distance from which a natural predator could successfully attack it’s intended prey. Wild animals have not yet evolved the instinct required to keep modern hunters at a “safe” distance.

I was going to validate this as an actual meaningful opinion by offering some kind of well drawn out rebuttal but frankly, I just don't feel like it. So, I'll just go with a simpler response. While reading this all I could think is how much of a pussy you must be. I mean good lord, ******* cry about it. Maybe hunters kill things to boost ego, but you ***** and moan to make yourself feel as though someone cares to hear your whining. Your father obviously didn't hit you enough. ******* tree hugging pansy, if it was still times of survival of the fittest you'd be hiding in a corner crying. Now go get your rainbow flag and start a parade in the middle of traffic.

 

[fatryan 5,000+ posts]

I was going to validate this as an actual meaningful opinion by offering some kind of well drawn out rebuttal but frankly, I just don't feel like it. So, I'll just go with a simpler response. While reading this all I could think is how much of a pussy you must be. I mean good lord, ******* cry about it. Maybe hunters kill things to boost ego, but you ***** and moan to make yourself feel as though someone cares to hear your whining. Your father obviously didn't hit you enough. ******* tree hugging pansy, if it was still times of survival of the fittest you'd be hiding in a corner crying. Now go get your rainbow flag and start a parade in the middle of traffic.

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[Raven 10+ year member]

i was shocked it took this long for someone to post that //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

I figured it was a little too preachy to be you, so I cut & pasted the first two sentences into google. That was link 3 I think.

But yeah, WHOEVER first made that statement is full of shit. Sadly n00bs will continue to argue against you for posting it.

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

I was going to validate this as an actual meaningful opinion by offering some kind of well drawn out rebuttal but frankly, I just don't feel like it. So, I'll just go with a simpler response. While reading this all I could think is how much of a pussy you must be. I mean good lord, ******* cry about it. Maybe hunters kill things to boost ego, but you ***** and moan to make yourself feel as though someone cares to hear your whining. Your father obviously didn't hit you enough. ******* tree hugging pansy, if it was still times of survival of the fittest you'd be hiding in a corner crying. Now go get your rainbow flag and start a parade in the middle of traffic.

do you and fatryan realize what is happening here?

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

You : http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Civil_Engineer/Salary/by_Years_Experience

Him: http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Sociologist/Salary/by_Years_Experience

Me: http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Business_Analyst%2c_Finance%2fBanking/Salary/by_Years_Experience

 

[AcidicDreams 10+ year member]

You guys DO realize that not only is Faulkton full of shit, but that he can't even form opinions of his own and has to copy ones from other places.
http://www.justiceforanimals.co.za/anti_hunting.html

(Nothin' but love, Faulkton. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif )

Why do I have to defend hunting? Those excuses are lame... it's simple, animals don't cognate (most of them) therefore there is no harm in slaughtering them wholesale as long as they are not the property of another human being.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Why do I have to defend hunting? Those excuses are lame... it's simple, animals don't cognate (most of them) therefore there is no harm in slaughtering them wholesale as long as they are not the property of another human being.

What about people who do not cognate?

 

[AcidicDreams 10+ year member]

What about people who do not cognate?

Ummm, they would be dead... even the most brain damaged people are self aware, save those who are in a coma. However the fact that they have, and still have the potential to become self aware, then no, no killing those people... even if they are as stupid as Faulkton

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

So it is okay to kill other things without reguard or mercy because some of your abilities make you somehow superior to them?

 

[AcidicDreams 10+ year member]

In any case, just because some people watched too many Disney movies, and are now prone to anthropomorphize animals, it doesn't mean I'm going to stop hunting or start caring... I suppose if they ever gain the majority and it's made illegal in the USA I'll move to Africa....

 

[AcidicDreams 10+ year member]

So it is okay to kill other things without reguard or mercy because some of your abilities make you somehow superior to them?

It's more along the lines of this: If you aren't self-aware you can't feel pain or feel the loss of a "family member". Therefore shooting say a duck, is akin to smashing my computer, or breaking a cell phone...

However Dolphins, Elephants, Great Apes and maybe a handful of other animals (probably whales, maybe giant squid etc) ARE self-aware and therefore should not be hunted and their deaths should be avoided at any REASONABLE cost.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

In any case, just because some people watched too many Disney movies, and are now prone to anthropomorphize animals, it doesn't mean I'm going to stop hunting or start caring... I suppose if they ever gain the majority and it's made illegal in the USA I'll move to Africa....

I want to start hunting humans. That will be fair atleast.