why that was nice

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

lol Ive heard so many people claim their great grand pappy or w/e started the KKK.

We aren't too terribly far from Pulaski.

Ironically, the only person I know from there is a black guy...and he says it's not as a big of deal as people make it out to be.

 

[IamDeMan 5,000+ posts]

Its something to be proud of if it's true. It just makes me laugh when people who's heritage is in the North try to claim their family started the KKK:laugh:

I agree, all them posers bring shame to my family. We are the KKK OGs dammit!

 

[bikinpunk 10+ year member]

Come to Cullman, Al. It's a whole 'nother ballgame down there.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

I won't disagree.

I am just saying the original KKK was not as violent as what most people think of when they think KKK.

Just like an overwhelming number of people think of Hitler when they hear communism.

 

[JLJunkieMX107 10+ year member]

My buddy ,whos family is from Pulaski, has pictures of his great grandpa in the KKK outfit way back in the day. Before the hoods and shit came into play. Flip, when do you want to hear this system?

 

[Chevillac 5,000+ posts]

in for more lawsuits. Im sure the other families will jump in now. This is a time when I say **** free speech flip, this is exaclty what I was talking about. Better be prepared to pay for what you say.

SHould have known this was going to happen eventually

hey eugenics, so much for the phelps being magnificent lawyers

 

[IamDeMan 5,000+ posts]

in for more lawsuits. Im sure the other families will jump in now. This is a time when I say **** free speech flip, this is exaclty what I was talking about. Better be prepared to pay for what you say.
SHould have known this was going to happen eventually

hey eugenics, so much for the phelps being magnificent lawyers

So, in essence their mouths need to stop writing checks their bank won't cash?

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

I may come over this weekend. I am close to getting to mine listen-to-able

 

[IamDeMan 5,000+ posts]

I may come over this weekend. I am close to getting to mine listen-to-able

WTF did I tell you about audio talk in the lounge?

I said you can do it whenever you want, just don't ban me.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

in for more lawsuits. Im sure the other families will jump in now. This is a time when I say **** free speech flip, this is exaclty what I was talking about. Better be prepared to pay for what you say.
SHould have known this was going to happen eventually

hey eugenics, so much for the phelps being magnificent lawyers

I wouldn't go as far as to say fuck free speech, but as long as they can finance it...then why not.

Just like I am not willing to pay the price to say the N word in a group of angry black men....I will always believe I have the right to say it, I just am not willing to get my *** kicked for it.

However, I think what they where doing was wrong anyway. Let them protest from home and put it on youtube or something. Their protests should not interrupt something as sacred as a funeral.

 

[Chevillac 5,000+ posts]

So, in essence their mouths need to stop writing checks their bank won't cash?

Basically. Hey what you doing this weekend?

I may come over this weekend. I am close to getting to mine listen-to-able

Who were you talking to?

I wouldn't go as far as to say fuck free speech, but as long as they can finance it...then why not.
Just like I am not willing to pay the price to say the N word in a group of angry black men....I will always believe I have the right to say it, I just am not willing to get my *** kicked for it.

However, I think what they where doing was wrong anyway. Let them protest from home and put it on youtube or something. Their protests should not interrupt something as sacred as a funeral.

NOt saying fuck free speech in general. Saying fuck your free speech to me. You cant just talk to me any ol way and expect to get away with it, just like you summarized in the last discussion. (me and you are general me and yous)

Word it was wrong, was wondering when they were going to have something like this happen.

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

No.
According to the articles I read, the real downfall was people being able to "invade" their society. It was a closely held group. As membership increased, they were unable to keep those secrets. This kind of unwound the secrecy of the society. The cross-burning and that non-sense was not the original intent of the KKK.

this is what i was referring to:

Richard Butler said to have left the property he lost in lawsuit

Tuesday, October 24, 2000

By NICHOLAS K. GERANIOS

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

SPOKANE -- Aryan Nations leader Richard Butler has moved out of his 20-acre northern Idaho compound, according to one of his supporters.

The neo-Nazi must relinquish the compound soon to satisfy part of a $6.3 million judgment against him in a civil lawsuit.

Wealthy supporter Vincent Bertollini last week purchased a home for Butler in nearby Hayden, Idaho, and Butler has moved in, Bertollini said yesterday.

Hayden is about 40 miles east of Spokane, Wash.

"The icon of the now defunct (ha) Aryan Nations has 'left the property,'" Bertollini wrote in an e-mail to reporters. "There is nothing but silence there now."

A woman who answered the telephone at the Aryan Nations said they would have no comment. She declined to answer questions.

The lawsuit also stripped Butler of the right to use the name Aryan Nations, but he has settled on an alternative, "The Aryan National Alliance," Bertollini wrote.

Butler, 82, was due to turn over the property to Victoria and Jason Keenan as early as this week. The Keenans last month won a negligence lawsuit against Butler after they were shot at and assaulted by Aryan Nations security guards in 1998.

Bertollini said Butler's enemies "can hire their trucks, vans and minions to cart away Pastor Butler's possessions of a lifetime."

"Pastor Butler will continue preaching. Pastor Butler will continue printing and Pastor Butler will continue to ride the Internet," Bertollini wrote.

Bertollini and associate Carl Story, both of nearby Sandpoint, Idaho, operate the 11th Hour Remnant Messenger, which shares the anti-Semitic, white supremacist philosophy of Aryan Nations. They have used wealth from their Silicon Valley computer ventures to finance mass mailings and other activities.

Bertollini purchased the $107,500 house for Butler in a deal that closed last week. Butler and his German Shepherd Fritz have been seen at the property in recent days.

The small gray house sits in a neighborhood filled with minivans and swing sets, just west of the Hayden Lake Country Club.

The house can't be put in Butler's name because it would be subject to seizure by the Keenans.

On Saturday, Butler and an unknown number of supporters will march down the main street of nearby Coeur d'Alene, Idaho.

"This is a 'White Pride' and Racial Awareness March where true Aryans are standing together . . . and showing the fine folks of north Idaho and the national media that we are not going to be silenced," Bertollini wrote.

It's unclear how many supporters will show up or take part in the march. In the past, thousands of protesters have descended on Coeur d'Alene to shout down the neo-Nazis.

Human rights advocates say that rather than protesting, they plan to spread a positive message. The Kootenai County Task Force on Human Relations will begin its "Idaho, the Human Rights State" campaign this weekend.

Butler still hopes to receive a new trial after losing the negligence lawsuit Sept. 7. His motion alleged there was juror misconduct, with some jurors allegedly saying they wanted to send a message to the Aryan Nations that it was not wanted in northern Idaho.

First District Judge Charles Hosack is still working on the decision, a clerk said.

In essence it destroyed the organization.

It is nowhere near as prominent and effective as it used to be.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/arya24.shtml

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Basically. Hey what you doing this weekend?
Who were you talking to?

NOt saying fuck free speech in general. Saying fuck your free speech to me. You cant just talk to me any ol way and expect to get away with it, just like you summarized in the last discussion. (me and you are general me and yous)

Word it was wrong, was wondering when they were going to have something like this happen.

You made a clear point, and I somewhat adopted it. Believe it or not, people can be influenced by arguments over the internet.

Instead of a guarentee, invincible shield...I think...as long as you can pay, you can say whatever you want. If the can pay for the lawsuits, that enables them to say it...So...my perspective had changed some.

However, I am still surprised someone hasn't tried to kill them. I am unsure if they are really willing to die for it though.

 

[IamDeMan 5,000+ posts]

Basically. Hey what you doing this weekend?

Unfortunately I will be doing much needed home maintenance and obligatory visiting of my lonely grandmother in New Port Richey.
Why? You in the area? If so, I may be able to squeeze in some time for a drink if you must twist my arm about it. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif