Why aren't more people hitting 160?

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

And furthermore, OP, it's not so much in what you said...

Nope. It's entirely what he said. 163 dB on that equipment is such an absurd claim. You'd be hard pressed to see a 60 out of that equipment if you threw it in Dante's or Butler's builds and there's no way in hell those subs would survive 160's. About the only way you could make 160's out of those subs is late 90's/Alma Gates style with like 4 dozen of them in an armored car.

 

[neo_styles 10+ year member]

Nope. It's entirely what he said. 163 dB on that equipment is such an absurd claim. You'd be hard pressed to see a 60 out of that equipment if you threw it in Dante's or Butler's builds and there's no way in hell those subs would survive 160's. About the only way you could make 160's out of those subs is late 90's/Alma Gates style with like 4 dozen of them in an armored car.

Ehh I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt, but I guess it's not even worth that. He made his bed, I guess it's time for him to lie in it

 

[Beatb0xerboy]

And furthermore, OP, it's not so much in what you said, it's in how you react. All you have to give us is hearsay and some excuse about how the proof of your achievements was conveniently destroyed. But don't you for one second assume you know more than everyone here on this forum. You don't know what some of us do for a living.
Here's how I interpret you: you have fat stacks of cash and can pay someone off to do your work for you. If I'm right, then cool for you. Sound just like every guy I've ever met who's been "sponsored" and goes to competitions. Now do everything that took your last car to make the score you claimed and do it yourself. NOW you're more like 90 percent of the users here. GTFO with your amp and this superiority complex of yours.

Never once said I did this build myself. **** near impossible in Alaska without a garage which is why I paid to have it done. I also plan to have this new build done by someone else. EVERYTHING in Alaska is more expensive so 15k in the states is realistically like 8-10k. I have no complex. I've heard a few systems louder than mine...and no I don't know what some of you do for a living but does that matter as much? Money is money. I was doing big things at a time in my life which helped me buy stuff. 6 years later I'm doing big things again hence the new build.

 

[Braindead]

Have you ever tried a cap with a battery? Let alone a 100 farad cap with a kinetik and yellow top? Imagine the gobs of power stored up for a nice showdown.

Gobs of power??? Haha the **** is wrong with you

 

[neo_styles 10+ year member]

Never once said I did this build myself. **** near impossible in Alaska without a garage which is why I paid to have it done. I also plan to have this new build done by someone else. EVERYTHING in Alaska is more expensive so 15k in the states is realistically like 8-10k. I have no complex. I've heard a few systems louder than mine...and no I don't know what some of you do for a living but does that matter as much? Money is money. I was doing big things at a time in my life which helped me buy stuff. 6 years later I'm doing big things again hence the new build.

I'm well aware. You said yourself you didn't do this work. I mean hell, if I had 8-10K here I could have someone think through everything for me and go earn someone else's trophy. That's my point. Saying there's no garage space in Alaska doesn't hold water with me. I've been to Ketchikan and even they had resources for DIYers.

And yes, what we do for a living does matter. You've got company owners, designers, engineers, competitors, and enthusiasts, as well as a myriad of other skills on this site. Yet none of us admit to knowing it all. Collectively, we happen to know enough to discredit your claims, though. And that's really what matters.

 

[Beatb0xerboy]

tell you what buy me the equipment to get a repected 160db and i'll run it, but seeing how thats what most spl vans average and only 179 on the american bass spl ride got 179db but they had about as much equipment in there to buy a house... take your camera to meter with you...

An SPL van that's almost 20dbs more is just about 10 times louder than what I had. Once you start getting that far up there the amount of equipment needed is insane.

 

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Gobs of power??? Haha the **** is wrong with you

I'm eclectic

 

[basswiigee]

http://www.caraudio.com/forums/car-audio-build-logs-cars-trucks-suvs/572527-got160s-build-24-dc-lvl4m2-12s-4th-order.html

he will get 160's with his 24 12's on 18,000watts....

 

[Durango03 10+ year member]

Never once said I did this build myself. **** near impossible in Alaska without a garage which is why I paid to have it done. I also plan to have this new build done by someone else. EVERYTHING in Alaska is more expensive so 15k in the states is realistically like 8-10k. I have no complex. I've heard a few systems louder than mine...and no I don't know what some of you do for a living but does that matter as much? Money is money. I was doing big things at a time in my life which helped me buy stuff. 6 years later I'm doing big things again hence the new build.

Just pointing out for reference as to the knowledge of the board compared to the knowledge of yourself and your installer..

KHA on here is an Acoustics Engineer.. for a living he measures soundwaves, lengths, tuning (how to make it louder, quieter etc..).. with a degree in sound and extensive experience, Id say he has the two of you beat..

Just saying, its probably best to be humble and try to learn a thing or two on here before throwing your money at somebody..

 

[Beatb0xerboy]

I'm well aware. You said yourself you didn't do this work. I mean hell, if I had 8-10K here I could have someone think through everything for me and go earn someone else's trophy. That's my point. Saying there's no garage space in Alaska doesn't hold water with me. I've been to Ketchikan and even they had resources for DIYers.
And yes, what we do for a living does matter. You've got company owners, designers, engineers, competitors, and enthusiasts, as well as a myriad of other skills on this site. Yet none of us admit to knowing it all. Collectively, we happen to know enough to discredit your claims, though. And that's really what matters.

Never said I had someone think through anything for me! I bought the right equipment. I drew the sketches for the box, I did the mathematics involved, i figured the ohms/amps needed. The only thing I didn't do was the actual labor. I meant what you do for a living for MONEY doesn't matter. Yes, the skills needed cannot have a price put on them because you learn so much from others. So if I didn't hit 163 then I didn't! But i wont tell myself i didnt see something when i know i didnt. But for ANYONE to claim someone didn't do something when they have no knowledge of what that person is capable of is dumb. Yes there are ways and means for me to build the system. I built my first system in -20 weather! Did I ever wanna do that again? Def not. Never said there is no garage space. I said building something that would take that long in 8-9 months of Alaska weather WITHOUT A GARAGE is almost impossible. It can be done cuz I've done it but I will never do that again.

 

[Beatb0xerboy]

I'm pretty close to deleting this thread. Starting to be more of an annoyance now. Not comparing me to Jesus at all....but don't people discredit him today without ever even trying to learn anything about him? Just saying...

 

[Beatb0xerboy]

Just pointing out for reference as to the knowledge of the board compared to the knowledge of yourself and your installer..
KHA on here is an Acoustics Engineer.. for a living he measures soundwaves, lengths, tuning (how to make it louder, quieter etc..).. with a degree in sound and extensive experience, Id say he has the two of you beat..

Just saying, its probably best to be humble and try to learn a thing or two on here before throwing your money at somebody..

Didn't mean that literally. Meant what you do to earn money is irrelevant but the skills you possess are worth more. We were talking about acquiring equipment. Or at least I was.

 

[neo_styles 10+ year member]

Oh no he didn't...

Yes, OP, flex your authority as a mod and delete your own thread. You'd be better off just finding another forum at this point. You've done enough damage here already.

 

[thevic24 5,000+ posts]

Didn't mean that literally. Meant what you do to earn money is irrelevant but the skills you possess are worth more. We were talking about acquiring equipment. Or at least I was.

Well if you have the "skills" to tip a 160 with the gear you have, you ad better change what you do for a living...if its not car audio.

You my friend are a car audio god:imdama:

With that, you say that 100's of people witnessed this feat.

I wonder, if out of those 100's of people, there may have been one there that would have filmed this event?

Maybe a friend of yours? Im sure you were not there alone. Maybe they took a vid?

Let me ask, was this a sanctioned event where you made this heavenly score? Was this an IASCA event?

If so, post up the results page...

But I betting on none of this will happen....

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

Never once said I did this build myself. **** near impossible in Alaska without a garage which is why I paid to have it done. I also plan to have this new build done by someone else. EVERYTHING in Alaska is more expensive so 15k in the states is realistically like 8-10k. I have no complex. I've heard a few systems louder than mine...and no I don't know what some of you do for a living but does that matter as much? Money is money. I was doing big things at a time in my life which helped me buy stuff. 6 years later I'm doing big things again hence the new build.

If all you got for even 8K is a 4000W amp 4 mid level big box store 12's and a slightly upgraded electrical system and wires sticking out all over the place you got totally robbed. Amp mounted to the box?

If you're really rolling in dough, you should fly yourself to a big SPL show and see what is really loud. 163dB is the sound pressure INSIDE a jet engine turbine. I assure you this did NOT happen for you. At 160+ db EVERYTHING breaks. Glass, gaskets, welds, brake lines, woofer cones, etc. At 164 your keys in the ignition would stand upright, a can of soda in the car would explode, a piece of paper on the dashboard would turn to confetti. The only way the car in that picture made 163dB is if you filled it with explosives and blew it up.

Never said I had someone think through anything for me! I bought the right equipment. I drew the sketches for the box, I did the mathematics involved, i figured the ohms/amps needed. The only thing I didn't do was the actual labor. I meant what you do for a living for MONEY doesn't matter. Yes, the skills needed cannot have a price put on them because you learn so much from others. So if I didn't hit 163 then I didn't! But i wont tell myself i didnt see something when i know i didnt. But for ANYONE to claim someone didn't do something when they have no knowledge of what that person is capable of is dumb. Yes there are ways and means for me to build the system. I built my first system in -20 weather! Did I ever wanna do that again? Def not. Never said there is no garage space. I said building something that would take that long in 8-9 months of Alaska weather WITHOUT A GARAGE is almost impossible. It can be done cuz I've done it but I will never do that again.

Odds are very high that that build didn't even do 150. There are very very few vehicles that are even louder than 155, fewer still than can actually do more than play 60hz+ tone for 3 seconds at that level. AND the sort of shop or person that makes 150dB+ builds owns a real SPL meter.

If you "saw a 163" it was a cellphone app SPL measurement or some other complete ********.

In short, your story is utter ********.

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

Also, I was up in Alaska a couple weeks ago and ate this sumbitch. The plane ride back east was brutal for the poor prick next to me (they never smelled anything like what come outta me in first class before). Took me about 4 days to pass it..... Probably the biggest mistake I made in life this year.

Oh, and I failed the challenge because I didn't do the fries. Shame I had a big breakfast or I probably could have nailed the whole thing.

 

[neo_styles 10+ year member]

Also, I was up in Alaska a couple weeks ago and ate this sumbitch. The plane ride back east was brutal for the poor prick next to me (they never smelled anything like what come outta me in first class before). Took me about 4 days to pass it..... Probably the biggest mistake I made in life this year.
Oh, and I failed the challenge because I didn't do the fries. Shame I had a big breakfast or I probably could have nailed the whole thing.

Such a letdown. First I think you look like Sam Jackson, then a slothtranaut. Now I have to live with the fact that you look like a contestant on Top Shot. I'm scarred for life.

In related news, Minotaur II will be on the way to me by next month. You had a hand in that decision. Still think I should fuse for 80A?

 

[thevic24 5,000+ posts]

He said he spent 15k on this........but he also said he was sponsored by some so called audio shop???

Which is it?

If that was sponsored, they surely do not care about their reputation.....

 

[SoCaLBaMF]

Never said I had someone think through anything for me! I bought the right equipment. I drew the sketches for the box, I did the mathematics involved, i figured the ohms/amps needed. The only thing I didn't do was the actual labor. I meant what you do for a living for MONEY doesn't matter. Yes, the skills needed cannot have a price put on them because you learn so much from others. So if I didn't hit 163 then I didn't! But i wont tell myself i didnt see something when i know i didnt. But for ANYONE to claim someone didn't do something when they have no knowledge of what that person is capable of is dumb. Yes there are ways and means for me to build the system. I built my first system in -20 weather! Did I ever wanna do that again? Def not. Never said there is no garage space. I said building something that would take that long in 8-9 months of Alaska weather WITHOUT A GARAGE is almost impossible. It can be done cuz I've done it but I will never do that again.

This must be you in this video.

 

[jdawg90 10+ year member]

Had the perfect Panasonic flipout head unit cant remember what model. Can't remember what box was tuned to and inside was completely covered in dynamat inside. Mic was up front on passenger dashboard. I mean If I didn't hit it I wouldn't say it. The amp alone pushed 4895 RMS. The subs were T2D2's Not the D4's like most people had. The difference meaning they could be wired down to 2 ohms instead of 4 And were 1200 watts RMS. I'm not a fan of caps anymore but the cap did help a lot. I'm sure most people have never even seen a 100 farad cap or know the capacity of it. Look up the rockford fosgate model. Very rare. Like one reader said it could have been the mics. It was 4 years ago and that could be a variable. Ex and I got in a fight that night and she destroyed my camera phone with the video. The guy that beat me hit 165 in a walled van with 9 subs can't remember what. I'm currently looking at a new build in a tahoe. I no lie lol.

You can wire 4 d2 subs to 1 ohm or 4 ohm.

 

[Beatb0xerboy]

Correct. That's what I meant for the d4s