Which is of these three Type R 10" Subs is best?

[joelx21 10+ year member]

Hi everyone,

 

I've tried searching for a direct comparison for all three Type R subs (swr 1022, 1023, 1042, 1043) but I have yet to find a thread anywhere on the net. So here goes mine.

 

I am looking to install a single 10" sub in my 2000 SS camaro.

The enclosure that I'm going to use is an MTX stealth box with .6 cubic feet

I am planning on buying one of these two amps. Which one is the best fit?:

alpine mrp-m500 $150 Shipped

# mono subwoofer car amplifier

# 300 watts RMS x 1 at 4 ohms (500 watts RMS x 1 at 2 ohms)

# variable low-pass filter (50-200 Hz, 24 dB/octave)

# variable bass boost (0-12 dB at 50 Hz)

# subsonic filter (15 Hz, 24 dB/octave)

# fuse rating: 30A x 2

Hifonics Hfi1000d $165 Shipped

* New Hifonics HFI1000D HFi Series 1000W Monoblock Class D Car Amplifier

* RMS Power at 4 ohms: 475 watts x 1 chan.

* RMS Power at 2 ohms: 750 watts x 1 chan.

* RMS Power at 1 ohms: 1000 watts x 1 chan.

* Pulse Width Modulated MOSFET power supply

* 80A: fuse Rating

Here are the subs that I'm considering. Which sub would be the better choice? They are all about $110-120 shipped, so price isn't really a factor

Alpine Type R swr 1022d

# 10" subwoofer with dual 2-ohm voice coils

# Kevlar® reinforced pulp cone with Santoprene™ rubber surround

# cast aluminum frame with perimeter venting

# frequency response: 24-600 Hz

# power handling: 200-500 watts RMS (250 watts per coil)

# peak power: 1,500 watts

# sensitivity: 83 dB

# top-mount depth: 6-13/16"

# sealed box volume: 0.5-0.8 cu. ft.

# ported box volume: 0.6-1.25 cu. ft.

Alpine Type R swr 1023d

# 10" subwoofer with dual 2-ohm voice coils

# Kevlar reinforced pulp cone with Santoprene rubber surround

# cast aluminum frame with perimeter venting and radial finned heat sink

# frequency response: 26-200 Hz

# power handling: 300-600 watts RMS (300 watts per coil)

# peak power: 1,800 watts

# sensitivity: 83 dB

# top-mount depth: 5-7/8"

# sealed box volume: 0.5-1.0 cu. ft.

# ported box volume: 0.8-1.5 cu. ft.

Alpine Type R swr 1042d

# 10" subwoofer with dual 4-ohm voice coils

# Kevlar reinforced pulp cone with Santoprene™ rubber surround

# cast aluminum frame with perimeter venting

# frequency response: 26-600 Hz

# power handling: 200-500 watts RMS (250 watts per coil)

# peak power: 1,500 watts

# sensitivity: 83 dB

# top-mount depth: 6-7/8"

# sealed box volume: 0.5-0.8

# ported box volume: 0.6-1.3

Alpine Type R swr 1043d

# 10" subwoofer with dual 4-ohm voice coils

# Kevlar reinforced pulp cone with Santoprene rubber surround

# cast aluminum frame with perimeter venting and radial finned heat sink

# frequency response: 26-200 Hz

# power handling: 300-600 watts RMS (300 watts per coil)

# peak power: 1,800 watts

# sensitivity: 83 dB

# top-mount depth: 5-7/8"

# sealed box volume: 0.5-1.0 cu. ft.

# ported box volume: 0.8-1.5 cu. ft.

Thanks, I really appreciate all the advice that you guys can give me.

Joel

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[09civic 5,000+ posts]

two are dual 2 ohm and the other two are dual 4 ohm

 

[Kangaroux 5,000+ posts]

The alpine amp is higher quality and will put out cleaner power than the Hifonics

 

[mclerico83 5,000+ posts]

the ones with the 3's in them are the better subs the last number just tells you the ohms, id get the dual 2 if u know ur never going to ad a second more options.

Alpine SWR-1023D Type-R 10" subwoofer dual 2-ohm - eBay (item 400198064721 end time Mar-06-11 20:32:32 PST)

these are the ones

id heavily look into some dc level 3's a much better sub for like 20 bucks more

DC Audio - Woofers

call them direct

(775).425.5700

 

[Kangaroux 5,000+ posts]

the ones with the 3's in them are the better subs the second to last number just tells you the ohms, id get the dual 2 if u know ur never going to ad a second more options.

fixed

 

[mclerico83 5,000+ posts]

fixed

thanks wasent entirely looking at the model number when i was typing lol but the ones with the 3 in it are the newer models

 

[elancohen92 10+ year member]

I would say the Alpine Type R swr 1043d and the alpine mrp500. The newer type r is better constructed and will play forever. get the dual 4's and wire it to a two ohm load.

 

[mclerico83 5,000+ posts]

dc level 3 will be better in a small sealed box, type r dosent liek sealed all that much imho

i would get more power then the mrp500, ur goign sealed so its less efficient and the new alpines are power hungrier then the old ones

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run at 2 ohms and gives option of upgrading more down the line.

 

[elancohen92 10+ year member]

dc level 3 will be better in a small sealed box, type r dosent liek sealed all that much imho

type r loves sealed boxes

 

[mclerico83 5,000+ posts]

eeeh never liked them sealed, in big ported boxes they shine

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[09civic 5,000+ posts]

eeeh never liked them sealed, in big ported boxes they shine
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Discount: $29.69

Total: $168.26

168 shipped for it lol

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[ejschultz 10+ year member]

I run my SWR-1542D sealed. It's a super clean sub in a sealed enclosure. Also, I've heard the older "2" models are the better of the two. I'm not saying that because that's what I've got (I didn't have the "3" option for a 15; Alpine no longer makes a 15), that's just what I read. I heard for 10s and 12s to try and find the older models. I might be wrong, I'm just going by what I've seen others say here and elsewhere.

 

[LuckyatVMI 10+ year member]

eeeh never liked them sealed, in big ported boxes they shine
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[joelx21 10+ year member]

Thanks guys, I really appreciate your input.

The subs and amps that you guys mentioned are very impressive and I have to admit, it has given me something to think about.

Coming into this I had my concerns about going with the alpine mrp-m500. It doesn't have have enough to fully power the 1023 or the 1043 and while it has the same RMS rating as the 1022 and the 1042, even running at full power it won't take them to their full potential. Also, I heard that under-powering a sub can harm it.. hence the Hifonics Hfi1000d. However, I wasn't sure if the Hifonics Hfi1000d would deliver the same clear sound that Alpines are known for.

With that being said, I am going with the MB QUART ONX1.1500D 1500W Mono D Amplifier($$168.26 shipped!!!!!). I'm going to stick with the Type R. Which would go better with this amp? The 1022, 1023, 1042, or 1043?

Thanks,

Joel

 

[Magnus 10+ year member]

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