whats the best fi sub

The king of bass "ho Problems" runs the RE se's . the SSD is the comparable sub to the SE. multiple subs get the job done if you have the space. If you can only run 1 sub the Ascendant havoc would be another good choice cuz although recommended at 1250 rms they can easily take 2K w no sweat and sound good (quality) the whole time. If you wanna BTL I have one for sale. Then again so does everyone but nobody seems to be selling their SSDs and Qs since they have the SQPL people are looking for. Ho Problems is the record holder for bassrace and has great SQPL. How good will a sub off of 1 million watts sound? And if I put 24K watts to 24 15s would it sound better? I don't care for my BTL but it impresses everyone! I stand by SSDs as a solid sub that many people skip over for some odd reason. Back to reality 2 BTLs off 8K watts or 16 15s off the same power. Single subs with so much power is not for everyone but everyone seems to lean that way. Just my humble opinion Thanks for listening. JR

 
The king of bass "ho Problems" runs the RE se's . the SSD is the comparable sub to the SE. multiple subs get the job done if you have the space. If you can only run 1 sub the Ascendant havoc would be another good choice cuz although recommended at 1250 rms they can easily take 2K w no sweat and sound good (quality) the whole time. If you wanna BTL I have one for sale. Then again so does everyone but nobody seems to be selling their SSDs and Qs since they have the SQPL people are looking for. Ho Problems is the record holder for bassrace and has great SQPL. How good will a sub off of 1 million watts sound? And if I put 24K watts to 24 15s would it sound better? I don't care for my BTL but it impresses everyone! I stand by SSDs as a solid sub that many people skip over for some odd reason. Back to reality 2 BTLs off 8K watts or 16 15s off the same power. Single subs with so much power is not for everyone but everyone seems to lean that way. Just my humble opinion Thanks for listening. JR
SSD and SE are comparable? only thing i see comparable is some what close power ranges and they both are subwoofers

 
You sure about that? I don't recall ever making a SPL sub... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

And if you did label the BTL a SPL specific sub I'd say it has the best SQ of them all. Still the SSD is the chit. I've also been very impressed w/ the Q's and Ascendant Havocs, chaos' and arsenals

 
SSD and SE are comparable? only thing i see comparable is some what close power ranges and they both are subwoofers


Did you even look at all before you made this ridiculous statement or did you just stick your foot in your mouth for fun. HEHE Lemme help you

SSD12 / RE SE 12

Fs: 26.3 Hz / 25.1

Qms: 4.71 / 4.5

Qes: .49 / .49

Qts: .44 / .44

Sd:480cm^2 / 480cm^2

Vas:58.7 / 72.9

Spl:85.3dB 1W/1m / 86.1

Bl: 14.1 N/A / 17.7

Xmax: 21mm / 18

Rms: 800W / 600

Sealed box: .8-1.6 cuft / .75-1.0

Ported box: 1.8-2.5 cuft @ 33Hz/ 1.5@35hz / 2.0@33hz

Sub OD: 12.500” / 12.5

Cut ID: 11.125” / 11

Mounting depth: 6.500” / 6.5

Displacement: 0.14cuft / .15

TSParameters tell a lot about a woofer and if Scott (owner of Fi) had continued to further design the Re Se the SSD is probably what it would be today ( At the hands of its creator) Still think that power range and that it's a sub is the only comparable thing. I hope your other 6000 posts were thought out more carefully!

 
They are different subs; the soft parts and Thiele/Small parameters bear that out pretty clearly.

Define "comparable". I can compare an SSD to anything

 
They are different subs; the soft parts and Thiele/Small parameters bear that out pretty clearly.
Define "comparable". I can compare an SSD to anything


SSD and SE are comparable? only thing i see comparable is some what close power ranges and they both are subwoofers

Well you can see above or double check for yourself there is much more in common than the power range and the fact that they are both subs---they are both round too but I left that out.....maybe you didn't know that.

DevilDriver Why don't you show me a comparison that is closer......And I'm not saying there won't be but cmon--the same guy designed both subs (Scott from Fi). It is NOT the same sub and I never said it was. Why are you even coming to this guys rescue??Is that your brother or something?

Lemme go over this again with you!

They are different subs; the soft parts and Thiele/Small parameters bear that out pretty clearly.

Define "comparable". I can compare an SSD to anything

agree, agree and agree......not sure why you sound so much like a smart azz but read carefully I NEVER said that they weren't different subs nor that they were the same subs! (A) Show me the soft parts (B)theTS parameters bear that out pretty clearly? What does that mean. Anyone can look and see that the TS Params are very close. Comparable???? yes dude you can compare whatever subs you run to 2 bums fightin over a garbage can. What does that mean??????//Find me something that is relevant like a woofer with Parameters closer. Again I hope you do but I'm not going to have to. I presented these created by the same designer (Scott from Fi) Good Luck

Wait a minute I just remembered why you sound like a smart azz and have thus just tried the wrong one. It seems like there are people on here that just want to make other people look and sound stupid and then theres me who put you back in your place. I damm you from ever having bass again. The only one that can undamm you is my bass-cat. This is absolutely true!! When your fuse pops this week or one of your speakers goes out just remember I dammd you.

Dude think about this chit the next time you try and insult some NoooB with some weak azz game. They just might not really be a NooooB. Then again bro you know who I am Neil! Did I get you with the different name on here?

 
I guess the OP didn't know this but each FI sub is hand built by Jesus himself. They are then matched by angels to .0001 of the reference subs which are made from solid gold and sit next to God's throne.

After which storks deliver each and every sub to the warehouse one by one on fluffy clouds. Why do you think it takes a little bit after you order to get these?

So the lowest line sub is still better than anything else made in the world. You can't dispute me on this. I mean, would you go against Jesus?

 
I guess the OP didn't know this but each FI sub is hand built by Jesus himself. They are then matched by angels to .0001 of the reference subs which are made from solid gold and sit next to God's throne.
After which storks deliver each and every sub to the warehouse one by one on fluffy clouds. Why do you think it takes a little bit after you order to get these?

So the lowest line sub is still better than anything else made in the world. You can't dispute me on this. I mean, would you go against Jesus?
Now theres some insight!!!You are the MAN ...................Maybe there is hope for forums after all and I was about to give up. What incredible intellect you posess and that my friend is no joke...................And yes this is true the lowest line Fi sub is better that anything else in the world. Oh but there is nothing low line about 800-1200 rms hehe but don't worry Jesus knows that too!

Crappin Rainbows NOW THAT IS FUNNY!!! dude

 
SSD and SE are comparable? only thing i see comparable is some what close power ranges and they both are subwoofers
Well you can see above or double check for yourself there is much more in common than the power range and the fact that they are both subs---they are both round too but I left that out.....maybe you didn't know that.

DevilDriver Why don't you show me a comparison that is closer......And I'm not saying there won't be but cmon--the same guy designed both subs (Scott from Fi). I spoke to him and his builder Paul at SBN last month and they confirmed this. It is NOT the same sub and I never said it was. Why are you even coming to this guys rescue??Is that your brother or something?

Lemme go over this again with you!

They are different subs; the soft parts and Thiele/Small parameters bear that out pretty clearly.

Define "comparable". I can compare an SSD to anything

agree, agree and agree......not sure why you sound so much like a smart azz but read carefully I NEVER said that they weren't different subs nor that they were the same subs! (A) Show me the soft parts (B)theTS parameters bear that out pretty clearly? What does that mean. Anyone can look and see that the TS Params are very close. Comparable???? yes dude you can compare whatever subs you run to 2 bums fightin over a garbage can. What does that mean??????//Find me something that is relevant like a woofer with Parameters closer. Again I hope you do but I'm not going to have to. I presented these created by the same designer (Scott from Fi) Good Luck

Wait a minute I just remembered why you sound like a smart azz and have thus just tried the wrong one. It seems like there are people on here that just want to make other people look and sound stupid and then theres me who put you back in your place. I damm you from ever having bass again. The only one that can undamm you is my bass-cat. This is absolutely true!! When your fuse pops this week or one of your speakers goes out just remember I dammd you.

Dude think about this chit the next time you try and insult some NoooB with some weak azz game. They just might not really be a NooooB. Then again bro you know who I am Neil! Did I get you with the different name on here?

Dude take a chill pill, quit writing books and acting like a smart ***...your constant books of arrogance based on the whole "I KNOW BECAUSE THE MAN SAID SO" tactic is really starting to work my nerves...you don't know anywhere near as much as you think you do, trust me.

You are comparing woofers that are in the same field.

It's like a baseball game...Redsox vs. Yankees...

Myself, i'd take the Redsox. They play in the same organization as the Yankees, have really closely related players as far as talent goes. But you either love the Redsox or hate the Yankees (or vice versa). At the end of the day, they both play the same game...baseball.

 
Now theres some insight!!!You are the MAN ...................Maybe there is hope for forums after all and I was about to give up. What incredible intellect you posess and that my friend is no joke...................And yes this is true the lowest line Fi sub is better that anything else in the world. Oh but there is nothing low line about 800-1200 rms hehe but don't worry Jesus knows that too!
Crappin Rainbows NOW THAT IS FUNNY!!! dude
Funny that you edited your post for spelling but actually wrote Edit reason : "speli"

Of course Jesus knows it, he is JESUS.

There is a thread with the new btl up right now, you should look at that. That will most likely be the best Fi sub (just to answer your question)

 
Did you even look at all before you made this ridiculous statement or did you just stick your foot in your mouth for fun. HEHE Lemme help you
SSD12 / RE SE 12

Fs: 26.3 Hz / 25.1

Qms: 4.71 / 4.5

Qes: .49 / .49

Qts: .44 / .44

Sd:480cm^2 / 480cm^2

Vas:58.7 / 72.9

Spl:85.3dB 1W/1m / 86.1

Bl: 14.1 N/A / 17.7

Xmax: 21mm / 18

Rms: 800W / 600

Sealed box: .8-1.6 cuft / .75-1.0

Ported box: 1.8-2.5 cuft @ 33Hz/ 1.5@35hz / 2.0@33hz

Sub OD: 12.500” / 12.5

Cut ID: 11.125” / 11

Mounting depth: 6.500” / 6.5

Displacement: 0.14cuft / .15

TSParameters tell a lot about a woofer and if Scott (owner of Fi) had continued to further design the Re Se the SSD is probably what it would be today ( At the hands of its creator) Still think that power range and that it's a sub is the only comparable thing. I hope your other 6000 posts were thought out more carefully!
oh wow a few of them match! its almost like they are both subwoofers! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif

 
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