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[Jimi77 Premium Member]

The CIA would never be involved with disinformation.

One, it's spy agency, so disinformation is part of it's job. Two, CIA/Intel has an oddball way of drawing conclusions that has bit them in the arse numerous times. They kinda go with a preponderance of evidence, so if for example they have 3 pieces of intel that indicate Brazil is going to invade Columbia and 2 pieces of intel that indicate Brazil is not going to invade Columbia, then they "definitively" conclude Brazil is going to invade Columbia when a better conclusion would be "we can't tell if Brazil is planning on invading Columbia."

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

You were posting that story to prove either your theory that the spike protein on the virus was engineered in a lab in order for the virus to be aerosolized, or your theory that the virus in general was made in a lab because a virus can't just appear out of nowhere in nature.

If that is what you post as proof, why is it bad for me to poke holes in a proof that I don't find credible?
Isn't that what you want when you say "One has to develop discernment for what’s real or not." and "you look at all the evidence available and make a determination."?

No, the virus was already an aerosol or could transmit air to air naturally.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I am curious... why do lefty liberal democrats talk to other people like they are 12.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

The problem is zerohedge posts tons of conspiracy theory crap or click bait headlines that contradict the story and plain old disinformation. I don't think it's reasonable to expect us to comb through numerous zerohedge articles to figure out which ones are actually legit.

That's just your opinion.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Have you read the original NIC report on it?

Nope and an NIC report is not relevant to my sarcasm.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Hey, Rob... serious question. If you are as smart as you think you are, why have you made it your goal in life to "poke holes" in what people say on web forums? Is this the limit of your abilities or do you just not have the skills to do anything else?

You have asked me multiple times why I post here, and I have answered with the same answer multiple times.
If you really can't recall, the answer is on this forum more than once. I am not going to find it for you, but you may certainly share it when you find your own post questioning me, and my answer that follows.

"Sorry, but I don't accept your style of making a false statement as if it is fact and then demanding no one speak again about the topic.
That's like a defendant in a trial getting to decide whether eyewitnesses will or will not be able to testify against him."

False statement? Back that up, what statement is false?

I can point out many posts where you have made a claim and then closed out with "Period." or have said something to the effect the discussion was now over, or that any further discussion would just be someone wanting the last word (which is, in effect. YOU demanding the last word).
You just did it before. Would you like another example or two?
"I said *** IS for reproduction. PERIOD."
"A male human is designed to procreate with a female human. PERIOD. Anything else done sexually is a perversion. *** feels good to us so that we will be encouraged to copulate to reproduce. PERIOD."

But we're going off the rails.
Let's get back to what hands-on investigative work you have done in order to not be someone who just blindly accepts stuff.
Were you in any of the groups that were referenced in the NIC report on COVID?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

You have asked me multiple times why I post here, and I have answered with the same answer multiple times.
If you really can't recall, the answer is on this forum more than once. I am not going to find it for you, but you may certainly share it when you find your own post questioning me, and my answer that follows.

So I should do like you and start demanding that you prove it. Got it!

PROVE IT ROB OR YOU ARE JUST FULL OF SHIT.

I can point out many posts where you have made a claim and then closed out with "Period." or have said something to the effect the discussion was now over, or that any further discussion would just be someone wanting the last word (which is, in effect. YOU demanding the last word).
You just did it before. Would you like another example or two?
"I said *** IS for reproduction. PERIOD."
"A male human is designed to procreate with a female human. PERIOD. Anything else done sexually is a perversion. *** feels good to us so that we will be encouraged to copulate to reproduce. PERIOD."

Ahhh the old dodge the question gig.

But we're going off the rails.
Let's get back to what hands-on investigative work you have done in order to not be someone who just blindly accepts stuff.
Were you in any of the groups that were referenced in the NIC report on COVID?

Tell me why I need to be in a group or do "hands on" investigating to be someone who does not blindly accept stuff. Should I follow you with closed eyes as I walk naively through life?

 

[djdilliodon!]

As far as 81 million and 75 million votes go. My personal opinion is this was due to mail in voting. Secretary of states changed rules in the name of covid cause it was an emergency which is up to the legislatures to do. The problem here is that no one raised the issue till after the election and even though judges acknowledged this, they ain’t gonna change an election. 2024 will be different, if the vote numbers are close, I’d be amazed, if the turn out is lower (in my opinion I think it will be) but it’s similar for each, it would give me more confidence about 2020. If it changes and is mostly lower for the democrat, it would make me think some funny business went down in 2020.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

That's just your opinion.

No, it's actually been proved that ZeroHedge does that.
They pushed the conspiracy theory in an article that COVID was lab-engineered, and included the name and photo of a lab scientist and suggested people "pay him a visit".
You know, to bring him chocolates...

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

No, it's actually been proved that ZeroHedge does that.
They pushed the conspiracy theory in an article that COVID was lab-engineered, and included the name and photo of a lab scientist and suggested people "pay him a visit".
You know, to bring him chocolates...

Prove the virus was natural.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

So I should do like you and start demanding that you prove it. Got it!
PROVE IT ROB OR YOU ARE JUST FULL OF SHIT.

Strike a deal: Prove you never asked the question before. We both know you have.
Is four posts enough for me to prove it?

Ahhh the old dodge the question gig.

You wanted a false statement of yours? How about six?
Regarding the SPR: "Biden's use was not legal"
Regarding mathematics: "average is only useful for lazy people simplifying numbers or for nefarious means"
Regarding female orgasm: " The female orgasm exists to stimulate ovulation."
Regarding electronics: "A mono amp CAN be bridged."
Regarding anatomy: "Get it right, there are no nerves IN bone."
Regarding law: "You said YOU prosecute people commiting fraud. If you are not an attorney then you lied."

All verbatim quotes of your words. All incorrect.

Tell me why I need to be in a group or do "hands on" investigating to be someone who does not blindly accept stuff. Should I follow you with closed eyes as I walk naively through life?

If you are upset that I just "blindly accept" the results of investigations that others have performed, then logic dictates that you do not "blindly accept" the results of investigations that others have performed. That leaves only one option: You performed your own investigations.

So, tell us about the investigations you performed, since you were not part of any of the government groups that investigated.
If you didn't do any, then you are demanding of others what you are unwilling to provide yourself.
That's hypocritical.

So before we totally go off the rails, tell us about your hands-on investigation that you did in order to not blindly accept info from someone else.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Strike a deal: Prove you never asked the question before. We both know you have.
Is four posts enough for me to prove it?
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You wanted a false statement of yours? How about six?
Regarding the SPR: "Biden's use was not legal"
Regarding mathematics: "average is only useful for lazy people simplifying numbers or for nefarious means"
Regarding female orgasm: " The female orgasm exists to stimulate ovulation."
Regarding electronics: "A mono amp CAN be bridged."
Regarding anatomy: "Get it right, there are no nerves IN bone."
Regarding law: "You said YOU prosecute people commiting fraud. If you are not an attorney then you lied."

All verbatim quotes of your words. All incorrect.


If you are upset that I just "blindly accept" the results of investigations that others have performed, then logic dictates that you do not "blindly accept" the results of investigations that others have performed. That leaves only one option: You performed your own investigations.

So, tell us about the investigations you performed, since you were not part of any of the government groups that investigated.
If you didn't do any, then you are demanding of others what you are unwilling to provide yourself.
That's hypocritical.

So before we totally go off the rails, tell us about your hands-on investigation that you did in order to not blindly accept info from someone else.

So basically nothing to do with the current conversation. I should have known.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Prove the virus was natural.

I can neither prove nor disprove it was natural, and absence of evidence is not absence of evidence.

That said, it has been investigated form both perspectives, and nothing has been found to indicate it was engineered. That leaves the other possibility: it was natural.
That's a standard method of reasoning.

If or when they come up with an investigative conclusion that it was engineered, there is no other option but nature.
I don't beleive aliens are here visiting us, so I can't blame them.

Other than man-made or natural, do you have any other suggested sources?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I can neither prove nor disprove it was natural, and absence of evidence is not absence of evidence.

That said, it has been investigated form both perspectives, and nothing has been found to indicate it was engineered. That leaves the other possibility: it was natural.
That's a standard method of reasoning.

If or when they come up with an investigative conclusion that it was engineered, there is no other option but nature.
I don't beleive aliens are here visiting us, so I can't blame them.

Other than man-made or natural, do you have any other suggested sources?

Incorrect. Nothing is being shared with the public. What the hell is wrong with you??? Are you really just that damn stupid. You claim to chase fraud but apparently only people on assistance commit fraud. No government or government agency would commit fraud.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

That's just your opinion.

It's more than opinion. How many times have you posted articles that contradict the headline? You are a conspiracy theorist, which is fine, but just own up to it.