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Rob will say this is conspiracy fantasy, just because it comes from Zerohedge, even though it’s from a lawsuit:

“The families of four people who died from COVID-19 are suing EcoHealth alliance, the New York-based nonprofit that was conducting gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses in Wuhan, China, before COVID-19 broke out across town.”

“Not only did EcoHealth help to create a 'genetically manipulated virus,' the lawsuit claims, it worked to cover up the origins of the outbreak.

"If we had known the source or origin of this virus and had not been misled that it was from a pangolin in a wet market, and rather we knew that it was a genetically manipulated virus, and that the scientists involved were concealing that from our clients, the outcome could have been very different," victims' attorney Patricia Finn told the NY Post.”

The grant, titled “Understanding the Risk of Bat Coronavirus Emergence,” was originally awarded in 2014 by Dr. Anthony Fauci’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID). Under the terms of the grant, EcoHealth Alliance, a government-funded nonprofit that purportedly engages in research to prevent pandemics, was awarded $3.8 million over five years to assess the spillover potential of bat viruses “using reverse genetics, pseudovirus and receptor binding assays, and virus infection experiments in cell culture and humanized mice.” Put in simple terms, NIAID was paying EcoHealth to genetically engineer and manipulate bat viruses in labs.”

 
Rob will say this is conspiracy fantasy, just because it comes from Zerohedge, even though it’s from a lawsuit:

“The families of four people who died from COVID-19 are suing EcoHealth alliance, the New York-based nonprofit that was conducting gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses in Wuhan, China, before COVID-19 broke out across town.”

“Not only did EcoHealth help to create a 'genetically manipulated virus,' the lawsuit claims, it worked to cover up the origins of the outbreak.

"If we had known the source or origin of this virus and had not been misled that it was from a pangolin in a wet market, and rather we knew that it was a genetically manipulated virus, and that the scientists involved were concealing that from our clients, the outcome could have been very different," victims' attorney Patricia Finn told the NY Post.”

The grant, titled “Understanding the Risk of Bat Coronavirus Emergence,” was originally awarded in 2014 by Dr. Anthony Fauci’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID). Under the terms of the grant, EcoHealth Alliance, a government-funded nonprofit that purportedly engages in research to prevent pandemics, was awarded $3.8 million over five years to assess the spillover potential of bat viruses “using reverse genetics, pseudovirus and receptor binding assays, and virus infection experiments in cell culture and humanized mice.” Put in simple terms, NIAID was paying EcoHealth to genetically engineer and manipulate bat viruses in labs.”


And so we are to believe lawyers who are wanting to sue for millions and probably get a third, but not believe lawyers who go after Trump?
That's pretty inconsistent.

But aside from twitter reposts, pictures of Asians in masks, and rehashes of info form Epoch times, I don't see anything in the is one-page "article" that shows the medical community at large has accepted that the spike protein on the outside of the virus was engineered to do the things you claim.

If you were posting the article as proof that the virus was engineered at that lab and escaped, neither the article nor the lawsuit prove that either.
 
You forget what you posted already?
Based on your previous post, you could be asking me to prove one of multiple things, or all of them.
Am I supposed to prove that because the Chinese are shady, they released COVID in their own country to kill us?
Am i supposed to prove that you set a standard that you don't adhere to?
Am I supposed to prove that I reference facts but you demand your blind acceptance be accepted with blind acceptance?


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And so we are to believe lawyers who are wanting to sue for millions and probably get a third, but not believe lawyers who go after Trump?
That's pretty inconsistent.

But aside from twitter reposts, pictures of Asians in masks, and rehashes of info form Epoch times, I don't see anything in the is one-page "article" that shows the medical community at large has accepted that the spike protein on the outside of the virus was engineered to do the things you claim.

If you were posting the article as proof that the virus was engineered at that lab and escaped, neither the article nor the lawsuit prove that either.
I was just posting a news story, man. Idk why you add all that other bullshit in there that has nothing to do with what we’re talking about.

I need to see your definitive proof that the virus came from nature out of the wet market.
 
No, you made a statement about me, I said it should be easy to prove... apparently not. Moving on.
Now that you've clarified what you want, here it is:
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You don't want blind acceptance.
That requires hands-on investigation and evaluation, which I am unable to do.

Since you do not just blindly accept, what hands-on investigation of the situation have you done?
 
Now that you've clarified what you want, here it is:
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You don't want blind acceptance.
That requires hands-on investigation and evaluation, which I am unable to do.

Since you do not just blindly accept, what hands-on investigation of the situation have you done?
Nope, that wasn't it but why is it when I say "moving on" you have to jump back in there and run your mouth? Do you really need the last word?
 
I was just posting a news story, man. Idk why you add all that other bullshit in there that has nothing to do with what we’re talking about.

I need to see your definitive proof that the virus came from nature out of the wet market.
You were posting that story to prove either your theory that the spike protein on the virus was engineered in a lab in order for the virus to be aerosolized, or your theory that the virus in general was made in a lab because a virus can't just appear out of nowhere in nature.

If that is what you post as proof, why is it bad for me to poke holes in a proof that I don't find credible?
Isn't that what you want when you say "One has to develop discernment for what’s real or not." and "you look at all the evidence available and make a determination."?
 
Nope, that wasn't it but why is it when I say "moving on" you have to jump back in there and run your mouth? Do you really need the last word?
There is no "last word" here, until the forum is shut down.

Sorry, but I don't accept your style of making a false statement as if it is fact and then demanding no one speak again about the topic.
That's like a defendant in a trial getting to decide whether eyewitnesses will or will not be able to testify against him.
 
Hey, Rob... serious question. If you are as smart as you think you are, why have you made it your goal in life to "poke holes" in what people say on web forums? Is this the limit of your abilities or do you just not have the skills to do anything else?

"Sorry, but I don't accept your style of making a false statement as if it is fact and then demanding no one speak again about the topic.
That's like a defendant in a trial getting to decide whether eyewitnesses will or will not be able to testify against him."

False statement? Back that up, what statement is false?
 
Rob will say this is conspiracy fantasy, just because it comes from Zerohedge, even though it’s from a lawsuit:

“The families of four people who died from COVID-19 are suing EcoHealth alliance, the New York-based nonprofit that was conducting gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses in Wuhan, China, before COVID-19 broke out across town.”

“Not only did EcoHealth help to create a 'genetically manipulated virus,' the lawsuit claims, it worked to cover up the origins of the outbreak.

"If we had known the source or origin of this virus and had not been misled that it was from a pangolin in a wet market, and rather we knew that it was a genetically manipulated virus, and that the scientists involved were concealing that from our clients, the outcome could have been very different," victims' attorney Patricia Finn told the NY Post.”

The grant, titled “Understanding the Risk of Bat Coronavirus Emergence,” was originally awarded in 2014 by Dr. Anthony Fauci’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID). Under the terms of the grant, EcoHealth Alliance, a government-funded nonprofit that purportedly engages in research to prevent pandemics, was awarded $3.8 million over five years to assess the spillover potential of bat viruses “using reverse genetics, pseudovirus and receptor binding assays, and virus infection experiments in cell culture and humanized mice.” Put in simple terms, NIAID was paying EcoHealth to genetically engineer and manipulate bat viruses in labs.”

The problem is zerohedge posts tons of conspiracy theory crap or click bait headlines that contradict the story and plain old disinformation. I don't think it's reasonable to expect us to comb through numerous zerohedge articles to figure out which ones are actually legit.
 
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