What is soo bad about sony?

Ive had a few sony products ( talking car audio gear here) and i wasnt impresed with any of them.

I currently run a sony amp, it does its job great, ive put it into protect numerous times.

Its not bad, but its not good.

The Sony P5's i had were complete junk. Even in a sealed enclosure very close to the specs, they had horrible SQ. However, they were pretty loud.

The sony 6x9's i had were just crap, nothing good can be said about them.

Pioneer makes a much better 6x9.

I do have an old sony t.v, the thing works great.

Sony HT gear= good stuff

Sony car audio= you can do better for the money

 
Apparently the experiences telling a story not conclusive with your own are faulty then?




The end user and their actions are typically the key variance in the quality of response an audio system produces.

5% Product

95% Install

Now tell me that you have not heard an Alpine, JL, or Eclipse System that didn't sound like crap...........

Given the right enclosure, processing, power, I can make a Kraco Subwoofer sound like a million bucks.

But by your logic, I just purchased it that way........
have you not read any of the other experiences of other people and sonys subs? or are you just going to ignore that and goto only my experience so you can say that’s all i have backing me up and prove your asinine point?

and lets not forget too look at how easy it is to blow a sony sub? Meka, who is by no means an idiot and has no problem with installs blew his shitty little sony subs... is he an idiot?

ive had the same problem with their door speakers, and yes, i know how to install shit. 18 watts destroyed them... attribute it to whatever you want, after that i got some pioneers which were cheaper and they lasted a few years...

if sonys products could play ball with the rest of the kids there wouldn't be near the trash talking, there starting to step up but havn't quite gotten there. i dont care who your a fanboy for, just dont tell me all those blown subs and speakers are all because of the user, thats ignorant.

go ahead and make a rebuttal, just dont try and say your backing it up with facts.

 
have you not read any of the other experiences of other people and sonys subs? or are you just going to ignore that and goto only my experience so you can say that’s all i have backing me up and prove your asinine point?
You mean in the same mannor in which you fail to read thatANY Speaker can be made to sound good or bad by install?

To elaborate further, had you READ my initial post, you would notice that I used to do real world evaluation on Sony Products for their distributors. I've had more Sony Gear pass through my hands than most dealers carry.

Yet simply because you allege to have one product fail, my point is now assinine?

The only thing assinine here is how easily people dismiss an entire brand without due cause.

and lets not forget too look at how easy it is to blow a sony sub? Meka, who is by no means an idiot and has no problem with installs blew his shitty little sony subs... is he an idiot?

Exactly what is your point here? One driver can fail just as easy as another.

I do not know "Meka" or the events of the circumstance, therefore I can not comment on that matter.

On the other hand, swing on by one night. I'll show you how easy it is to blow a 12w6 or a Shiva if you like.

Your statement here is irrelevant.

ive had the same problem with their door speakers, and yes, i know how to install shit. 18 watts destroyed them... attribute it to whatever you want, after that i got some pioneers which were cheaper and they lasted a few years...

That's the initial problem. EVERYONE on this forum "knows" how to install everything correctly. EVERYONE on this forum "knows" how to tune a system. EVERYONE on this forum has been doing this a while. EVERYONE on this forum has used every piece of equipment out there.

Fact is, a small handfull of people on this forum qualify for a few of the above statements. Most simply "think" they do.

18 watts destroying your Sony Door Speakers immediately raises a red flag in my book. Abuse resulting from clipping or overdriving the speakers is far more likely in this case than anything else. Considering that no recent Sony Midrange Speaker is rated anywhere near that low of power.

I believe the term "Volume Master" was dubbed for this action on this forum a while back.

if sonys products could play ball with the rest of the kids there wouldn't be near the trash talking, there starting to step up but havn't quite gotten there. i dont care who your a fanboy for, just dont tell me all those blown subs and speakers are all because of the user, thats ignorant.

Ignorance is assuming that the majority can install, tweak, tune, and adjust, their system and it's components properly.

Can't play ball?

SEMA thought otherwise:

http://news.sel.sony.com/pressrelease/4133

go ahead and make a rebuttal, just dont try and say your backing it up with facts.
And where have your "factual" statements resided?

 
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I believe the term "Volume Master" was dubbed for this action on this forum a while back.
lol that was a name i took from kirk and lyn at cac lol from about '93. anyone who fried a speaker got patted on the shoulder and walked outside..... the begining of most of these conversations was "you are a volume master..." it was hilarious and educational at the same time lol.

 
That's the initial problem. EVERYONE on this forum "knows" how to install everything correctly. EVERYONE on this forum "knows" how to tune a system. EVERYONE on this forum has been doing this a while. EVERYONE on this forum has used every piece of equipment out there.
Fact is, a small handfull of people on this forum qualify for a few of the above statements. Most simply "think" they do.
I completely agree, to this day i myself learn something new and build up on that each and every day. Maybe ever 2 days if i am lucky //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif Fact is, If there are people you cannot tolerate on this forum, please do not hate, They themselves will learn as well. Some things work, somethings don't. Some people have mishaps with there devices and accessories some don't. People complain people praise. People take those praises and complaints and take it upon as if they too have owned it as well and thus the band wagon is created. None the less, i have no idea what i typed up and hope i have somehow made a point. Jet-Lagged from Hawaii is not the coolest thing ever //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 
sony amps cut out when they get hot.....the amps are gay...
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