What happened to the SKAR subs?

[pro-rabbit 5,000+ posts]

Easy now , we can start the $150 SQ subwoofer showdown right now if you would like. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

I get some credit on that one HAHAHA...

 

[Vossy 10+ year member]

Idk, I'm more leaning towards Skar than Sa's.

I've heard SA's and ya they're really nice but I want to try something new.

And I think that's why there's not enough Skars atm ;D

 

[sundownz Pro Seller]

Well without getting too scientific it is generally accepted that; the more sensitive a speaker is the louder said speaker will get ( in dBs ) under particular measurement conditions ( 1w/1m ) at a certain frequency or frequencies..A sub with a 1w/1m volume of 103db will get louder -- powered by 1 watt, listened to from 1 meter away -- than a sub with a 1w/1m volume of 83...

Sensitivity is almost always measured at 1000 hz -- therefore it is largely irrelevant to sub bass. Typically, in my testing, a higher sensitivity driver has a gain only above 50 hz or so in a given box volume. This is not SUB bass... below 50 Hz is where a sub-woofer should be doing it's thing outside of an SPL competition.

It is directly linear dude, a sub with a rating of 103 vs a sub rated @ 83 ( sure on a set freq ) will get much much louder on the same power..On whatever frequency.

Absolutely not true -- see my testing. Hoffman's Iron Law... from small box, high sensitivity, and good low-end you can pick two of them. In car audio you want a small box and good low-end therefore cannot have a high sensitivity. This is a law of audio design -- not a theory -- and I've verified it in measurements.

I suggest reading the thread I linked to see the data for yourself.

I'm not a genius on the subject though, and I admit when I'm wrong but, my question is...What the hell makes a sub more sensitive than another lol..That's the big confusing point for a lot of people I know..

A very strong motor and/or a lower mass can both do it -- both of which reduce low-end extension. Typically why you see PA drivers with such high sensitivity -- both a light mass AND powerful motor.

Why is that home audio sub rated @ 103db and priced @ $5k and the Amazon.com $50 sub is rated @ 83db? What is physically different on the $5k 103db sub that makes it so "sensitive"

In home audio enclosure volume is not critical like car audio -- see Hoffman's Iron Law again. They pick sensitivity and low-end so box size is sacrificed.

 

[sundownz Pro Seller]

The above is assuming industry standard / 99.9% of published sensitivity ratings at 1000 Hz -- by the way.

 

[mraz]

So how good is the Skar sub? I'm stuck between choosing the Skar or the RE Audio SRX 12" sub? Does the Skar surpass the RE sub?

 

[sundownz Pro Seller]

I think a good place to ask more about it is their forum :

Skar Audio - SSA Car Audio Forum

 

[galacticmonkey 5,000+ posts]

Ive never used either, but Id imagine the Skar would whoop the RE SRX. The *** vs the Skar would be a much more fair comparison.

 

[DBBOOM 10+ year member]

All the people in this thread talking about how great Skar subs are....................post a pic of the one(s) YOU have in an install. In other words, if you don't have now and have never used them.......STFU.

 

[09civic 5,000+ posts]

All the people in this thread talking about how great Skar subs are....................post a pic of the one(s) YOU have in an install. In other words, if you don't have now and have never used them.......STFU.

Troof. Everyones basing there answers on specs and opinions

 

[-01limited- 10+ year member]

Troof. Everyones basing there answers on specs and opinions

Chimes in the biggest skar nuthugger

 

[retrojordans 10+ year member]

Sensitivity is almost always measured at 1000 hz -- therefore it is largely irrelevant to sub bass. Typically, in my testing, a higher sensitivity driver has a gain only above 50 hz or so in a given box volume. This is not SUB bass... below 50 Hz is where a sub-woofer should be doing it's thing outside of an SPL competition.


Absolutely not true -- see my testing. Hoffman's Iron Law... from small box, high sensitivity, and good low-end you can pick two of them. In car audio you want a small box and good low-end therefore cannot have a high sensitivity. This is a law of audio design -- not a theory -- and I've verified it in measurements.

I suggest reading the thread I linked to see the data for yourself.

A very strong motor and/or a lower mass can both do it -- both of which reduce low-end extension. Typically why you see PA drivers with such high sensitivity -- both a light mass AND powerful motor.

In home audio enclosure volume is not critical like car audio -- see Hoffman's Iron Law again. They pick sensitivity and low-end so box size is sacrificed.

Why does any company list the sensitivity? Marketing? I see a lot of the "if ya can't beat em join em" type mentality when it comes to marketing car audio and the **** teenagers (the prime demographic) will buy into.

And why is higher sensitivity inherent on larger subs?

/e I've read that law before, good read, but hard to keep track of all the tech stuff in my head .

 

[thevic24 5,000+ posts]

I know there was a ton of bad blood from folks toward the owner of SKAR subs but,I didnt hear any bad reviews of them.Seems like they came in like a bat out of hell and then totally disappeared.They are not on ebay anymore either.Was just curious....

This is why..........

 

[09civic 5,000+ posts]

Chimes in the biggest skar nuthugger

umm no im not...

 

[candeshop407]

indeed it should be...I'm sticking with the skars....kevin s also gave me a killer deal on a sub and bo combo...

good luck with that box..hope he's not making them himself. just research subtillis or read here Skar/Subtillis/1800woofers - FloridaSPL about kevin schlenker's business practices

 

[-01limited- 10+ year member]

umm no im not...

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