That is 100% true... I have family that works in state government and they see it all the time. Multiple generation families with 8+ kids per generation and none has ever worked in their lives.
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That is fine if you want that ideal. Ideally, people wouldn't need to rely on the government and people wouldn't be so greedy that they extort everyone else to get their own money. However in the world we live in, consumers and workers need to be protected. They need to rely on government for a middle class to exist. So the question is, do your principles make for a better economy? The answer is no. Disagree with welfare on principle? That's fine. But the fact that it benefits the economy as a whole is concrete.
If you want to use the family analogy, fine. But use a complete one. If we are talking about an individual, it's a person that just asked his employer to be paid less. If it's a business, it's a business that just cut it's prices. So the real logical step is asking his employer for a raise in the case of the individual or increasing prices back to when there wasn't a major problem in the case of the business.
What's funny is, both of those lies you told were created by Republicans, Fox News, and the right in general.
The bottom 50% don't pay a net income tax because compared to the top 50%, they don't have income. The bottom 80% of people own 7% of the wealth in this country. I shudder to think what the bottom 50% own. But it's them who you want to tax more? And you think that will make our economy better?
Actually it comes from Fox News and the conservative propaganda machine. A certain segment of those in DC then picked up on it. They then want to paint a false picture so people vote Republican and can use the class warfare card.
How much of our debt is waste?
The facts disagree with you.
Yeah! Nevermind the fact that businesses/the rich are seeing record profits and income gains, ******* more money (but still significantly less money since 40 years ago) is going to make the economy worse! Also ignoring the relatively low unemployment rate in the 50s, 60s and seventies when the top taxes rates were at or over 70%! Also ignoring the fact that taxes on the "producers" are the lowest they've been in 80 years yet our economy is so ******! Also ignoring the fact the employment is a factor of how much consumers spend not how much money rich people have sitting around! Boy, ignoring reality is fun! I like being a conservative!
Yeah, god forbid. Those horrible, government workers making their barely above poverty incomes. Fuckers. Ruining our country with their "healthcare" and their "benefits". Who are benefits good for? NO ONE! What we really need to do is give more money to the richest 400 people in this country who own more wealth than the bottom 50%. Because the equivalent of what half this country makes just isn't enough for those richest 400 people. They need MORE money to REALLY get our economy on track.
Yeah, or the fact that the middle class is disintegrating and wages have stagnated over the past 30 years so people aren't spending as much and businesses are laying people off because they people aren't spending enough money to require those employees. You know, basing this on the fact that businesses hire people to serve customers (ie, not to do a civic duty) and less customers = less employees needed = less employees. But I'm just basing this stuff on facts and reality. As a(n apparent) conservative, feel free to do otherwise.
I'm sure Karl Marx is very proud of you. Please give us one example of your collectivist/stateist utipia in practice?
Oh, okay. That makes me a lot less ragey. I still disagree with your overall viewpoint, but at least you're not batshit crazy.
Karl Marx has one foot in hell and is just trying to buy his way into Heaven is all he is doing with his Tax the rich people more crap.
