Vinyl to Cd converter

[Tiger Bass 5,000+ posts]

My dad got one of his old David Gilmore records converted to a cd down at the old music shop in town. When he came home and put it into the cd burner to make me a copy, the Gracenote tool off of iTunes was able to identify the album and every single song. How in hell was it able to do this?

I'm aware that data is burned into cd's for this kind of stuff, but was it done to records also?

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[LeofromtheH 10+ year member]

they probably put it in there manually when they did the conversion

 

[Pl8er 5,000+ posts]

Actually a good number of those programs use an algorythm to detect things like song times etc. So it can search out the total number of songs and then match that to the total time to get the song listings.

Or, they just manually entered.

 

[Tiger Bass 5,000+ posts]

My Dad said all the guy did was click a couple times so I doubt it was put in manually, but that does make a lot of sense.

 

[Pl8er 5,000+ posts]

If you are really interested try this little test. Make a copy of a cd, but don't name it and don't let it get titles. Then, put the cd in a computer and let something like media player open it. Most of the time, unless you mixed the songs it should name the tracks and album for ya.

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

If you're online and it can access the freedB database, sure.

Otherwise, it can't.

 

[Tiger Bass 5,000+ posts]

Hmm, I see what you are saying now.

But still just to go with it a little more, would the code picked up from the record not be fairly different from that stored tracks due to the imperfections in the vinyl?

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

There is no "code" picked up from the record...it's analog //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[Tiger Bass 5,000+ posts]

So could the analog not be different based on the background noise or quality of a recording?

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

I'm not quite sure what you're asking.

 

[LeofromtheH 10+ year member]

exactly what i was thinking. how could an analog vinyl store information about it's tracks. the only way a cd does so is because iit's stored onto the disk and is read by the computer.

 

[Tiger Bass 5,000+ posts]

exactly what i was thinking. how could an analog vinyl store information about it's tracks. the only way a cd does so is because iit's stored onto the disk and is read by the computer.

Exactly what Im trying to ask, thank you.

 

[LeofromtheH 10+ year member]

the vinyl can't possibly store it's information beause it's read in analog by only the need from the record player.

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

If you're online and it can access the freedB database, sure.
Otherwise, it can't.

Wow.

Are people really this stupid Jim?

nG

 

[thadman 10+ year member]

Im not that learned on the topic of analog records vs CDs. How are the dynamics of a record, are they compressed deeply by the producer just as CDs are? What do you sacrifice by transferring the record to the new medium? Can you maintain the dynamics (if superior)?

Im asking this, because im aware that tool released Lateralus on vinyl and maybe Aenima and I know for certain that the Downward Spiral was released on vinyl. These being two extremely dynamic bands live, I was hoping that maybe some of this was preserved in the vinyl as opposed to the digital version. Maybe im just day dreaming...is it worth pursuing?