underpowering overpowering subs

[twistedchild420 5,000+ posts]

What if I can safely send more than rated power to a speaker, am I overpowering it? Or am I just powering it?

And that is the question.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

What if I can safely send more than rated power to a speaker, am I overpowering it? Or am I just powering it?

Sum it up in whatever single word phrase you want. We can call it CA.comjustrightpowering it if you want.

 

[▼)Ñ╩fZΣµ& 10+ year member]

sooo according to one of the posts above... a subs life is completely random... and its not going to benefit to give it a longer life by running it 500rms less than what its max potential is?

and having the EXACT SAME VARIABLES like ive said

SAME SUBS SAME BOX SAME EVERYTHING!!!!!! just different power ratings

The one meeting its rated max power 500/500rms will be the same sound as the one being run 500rms less than what its max potential is 500/1000rms

 

[Lakota 5,000+ posts]

3 ways to kill a sub:

Too much heat (thermally)

Too much suspension travel: ripped spiders, bent former, etc (mechanical stuff)

Sledge Hammer

 

[▼)Ñ╩fZΣµ& 10+ year member]

3 ways to kill a sub:Too much heat (thermally)

Too much suspension travel: ripped spiders, bent former, etc (mechanical stuff)

Sledge Hammer

so then with normal daily use, if i ran them full tilt for one song 3:00 same subs same ecverything

the sub running 500/500 would be gettin hot and starting to smell and get more worn than the sub running at the same powr but half its max outpuit

500/1000

so therefor the sub 500/1000 would have a longer life and more durability against heating up and the forces of the travel and whatnot because its built to be used more rough

and would sound the same because its the same power being run..

 

[MakeshiftAudio 10+ year member]

3 ways to kill a sub:Too much heat (thermally)

Too much suspension travel: ripped spiders, bent former, etc (mechanical stuff)

Sledge Hammer

Or rape by screwdrivers going through the cone during installation. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[basscort2009 5,000+ posts]

Or rape by screwdrivers going through the cone during installation. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

did u ever do that? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

a subs life is completely random...

Not really.

Assuming no manufacturer's defects and no user abuse, 15-20 years of regular use isn't unheard of. UV degradation of the surround might be an issue, but that's easily solved.

 

[MakeshiftAudio 10+ year member]

did u ever do that? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

Nah, all my subs are non pressed paper kevlar/epoxy, so even if I did slip, it would have a hell of a hard time making a hole in the cone. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[▼)Ñ╩fZΣµ& 10+ year member]

so what would be better or neither...

getting the subs that run at the same power as my amp

or getting subs with a bit more capability and run them half of what they are capable of

if both are same price

 

[DBfan187 5,000+ posts]

doesn't matter, in the end it's how you use the volume knob that dictates their life

 

[▼)Ñ╩fZΣµ& 10+ year member]

doesn't matter, in the end it's how you use the volume knob that dictates their life

if everything was exact same.. lol..

why cant u guys play this stupid fake game to make me happy?//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/furious.gif.fc81ca146dbff91fede3ed290dbc4f4c.gif

one side of the trunk... own setup... other side of the trunk... other setup...

both controlled by same volume control, same amps scaled down everyhing same

lol i madd

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

SAME SUBS SAME BOX SAME EVERYTHING!!!!!! just different power ratings

Same subs, yet one magically has double the power rating? The sub which can handle double the power will have more mass in its coil, a stiffer suspension, etc. These things affect efficiency. Therefore output will not be the same simply due to receiving the same number of watts. Your 'fake game' is completely flawed.

why u mad

 

[▼)Ñ╩fZΣµ& 10+ year member]

Same subs, yet one magically has double the power rating? The sub which can handle double the power will have more mass in its coil, a stiffer suspension, etc. These things affect efficiency. Therefore output will not be the same simply due to receiving the same number of watts. Your 'fake game' is completely flawed.
why u mad

ohh ok

i was thinking a sub max rms 1000 and the same style sub max rms at 600

but as u said it has diff mass and different **** to move against the forces of nature

i was just thinking of ridiculous things

ill just get some new subs and run them as specified..//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

More power handling = more copper, which = more moving mass, which = lower efficiency. Most lower powered subs will be more efficient than the normal "monster sub." So they'll normally be louder up to a certain point where they reach mechanical/thermal issues, and then the beastly subs start to take over in SPL since they can handle the added power.

Unless you soon plan on upgrading to more power, just get the sub thats rated the same as your amp. Otherwise you'll be wasting the other sub's potential, and (more than likely) won't be getting as loud at the same time.