Um, I last logged in 10 years ago, in 2007! What's good in 2017?

[Popwarhomie 5,000+ posts]

just the first time ive seen handguns spoken about on here is all //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Thats why it sucks here.

 

[youdoofus]

Thats why it sucks here.

It ***** here from the lack of handgun talk or because it was mentioned?

 

[Boomin_tahoe 5,000+ posts]

Here's better than CACO right now....it's a ghost town over there.

 

[Popwarhomie 5,000+ posts]

It ***** here from the lack of handgun talk or because it was mentioned?

The lack of gun talk.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

SPL is one thing but it seems that anymore people want those loud LOWS (35 and under)... 10 years ago it WAS possible to do just that... but VERY expensive... the equipment today is so far ahead of what it was in the mid 90's when I really got hooked...

The trend the past decade (2 decades really) is cheaper power. Hoffman's Iron Law tells us... low frequency extension, high efficiency, small enclosure... pick two. Since power has become cheaper, speaker designers are able to utilize this to create subs that extend low and dont require a refrigerator sized box. When I first got into car audio, subs were delicate (by today's standards), light moving mass and highly efficient.. They kicked *** with a mere 300 watts... but the box size was absurd compared to what we consider standard today.

 

[shredder1 10+ year member]

I agree completely... LOL!.. in 1997 I put a pair of 95 db efficient 15 d2 Strokers on a pair of Audio Art 100 HC's... it got low and loud... even at events I went lower and louder than most other competitors... heck, after box rise I probably was only getting 700-800 watts to each... and tuning to 36 hz was LOW back then... today 32 hz seems normal to most and 1500-2000 watts is nothing financially when buying... those newer subs seem to be going to a lower efficiency/higher power handling... some have efficiency as well I'm sure... but it's 1997 again for that!... I paid $512 each in 1997 for mine... to get all 3 in your Iron law... it's gonna cost you...

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

I agree completely... LOL!.. in 1997 I put a pair of 95 db efficient 15 d2 Strokers on a pair of Audio Art 100 HC's... it got low and loud... even at events I went lower and louder than most other competitors... heck, after box rise I probably was only getting 700-800 watts to each... and tuning to 36 hz was LOW back then... today 32 hz seems normal to most and 1500-2000 watts is nothing financially when buying... those newer subs seem to be going to a lower efficiency/higher power handling... some have efficiency as well I'm sure... but it's 1997 again for that!... I paid $512 each in 1997 for mine... to get all 3 in your Iron law... it's gonna cost you...

You can't break hoffman's iron law. With no amount of money. That's why its called iron. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[shredder1 10+ year member]

You can't break hoffman's iron law. With no amount of money. That's why its called iron. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Yes, I suppose your correct... the 15D2's went LOW at the time but that was 1997... LOL!.. LOW was 35 hz back then... today it is crazy... I demoed in a Civic with 1 18" ZV4 I think it was... Ampere 5K... walled with a stripper pole... dude was playing 15 hz and it was windy/impressive... before the pole it was turning the windshield glass to "liquid"... now it just gets windy as all heck... those 30-40's are really felt in your chest... 1 18" sub... about +3500 clamped of course... equipment has really changed...

 

[jtmoney 10+ year member]

Thanks for all the replies. Good to see AudioQue is still around, although under a different name.

How much of the amps and subs are now made in China and shipped / badged up in the US?

And what happened to Elemental Designs?

 

[youdoofus]

[quote name='jtmoney']Thanks for all the replies. Good to see AudioQue is still around, although under a different name.

How much of the amps and subs are now made in China and shipped / badged up in the US?

And what happened to Elemental Designs?[/QUOTE]

SoundQubed has been rockin it pretty well. There are several new brands of subs too. @Popwarhomie is running 8 12" FU audio 12"s and destroying windshields with them. Lots of new stuff

 

[denim 5,000+ posts]

Still here. Coming up on 15 years, yikes.

 

[youdoofus]

Still here. Coming up on 15 years, yikes.

keep it goin man!! youre helping spread the boom!!

 

[denim 5,000+ posts]

keep it goin man!! youre helping spread the boom!!

Boom like so. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif