lol this whole thing about people being crazy about Type-R's is kinda funny. On this forum they are quite popular, but here in washington, i have seen TWO other cars with type-R's. My sisters boyfriends friend had 2 12" and i saw a little civic with a 12" in a prefab when i was driving up to canada. besides that, 99.9% of the people i know with subs run JL, MTX, Dual, and a couple guys with kicker CVR's.