Twisting Wires

[KOL 10+ year member]

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif at this thread & the dick head lizard with huge balls //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[IDSkoT 5,000+ posts]

I sit back some nights, reading this forum, and I got to say. Of all the personalities portrayed through the many posts. Your elitest, know-it-all attitude is easily the most unbecoming drivel I have the pleasure of reading.

lmfao

For an extream test of your convoluted thinking, try this experiment.

1)Go to your swing set in your back yard

2)Grab a swing & twist it up tight

3)With your face near the seat, release the swing & observe the reaction

As far as the twisted vs. nontwisted debate goes. If the wires aren't excessively stressed, I see no harm in it. My RCA's are of twisted pair design.

ZOMG, U KALLED ME NAEMZ! IM GUNNA TELL AN ADMIN ON U!!

ohwait...

No one cares.

Your statements don't disagree with mine. So, I suppose you just wanted to say that I'm an ***... and, do you REALLY think I don't know? Honestly. I'm with me 24 hours a day, I know my personal qualities. I don't need some random dumb *** over the internet to attempt to sum up my qualities based off of a condescending post I made after which the person I was condescending upon showed his intelligence, or lack there of.

Any thing else, Captain CAmmando?

 

[pjhabit 10+ year member]

ZOMG, U KALLED ME NAEMZ! IM GUNNA TELL AN ADMIN ON U!!

Did I?..Your reading comprehension isn't so good is it?

Your statements don't disagree with mine. So, I suppose you just wanted to say that I'm an ***... and, do you REALLY think I don't know? Honestly. I'm with me 24 hours a day, I know my personal qualities. I don't need some random dumb *** over the internet to attempt to sum up my qualities based off of a condescending post I made after which the person I was condescending upon showed his intelligence, or lack there of.

Any thing else, Captain CAmmando?

ZOMG, YOU KALLED ME NAEMZ! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/bawling.gif.6287aa5d1d447c8af063fc9466e822ef.gif

 

[DidUHearThat? 10+ year member]

On low power/sensitive signal wires, like line level audio, twisting the positive and negative wire pairs is one method of reducing noise, by increasing rejection. Any noise, or capacitance, that is encountered is received equally by both the positive and negative wires. That noise current is then canceled out at the destination because it is recieved in equal portions of negative and postive = zero.

Before sheilded balanced audio lines became standard in pro audio, twisted pairs were the main method of rejecting noise in audio lines.

Same principle applies to co-axial audio lines. Co-axial and balanced lines have almost completly replaced twisted pairs in audio.

This is not needed for higher current speaker, power or signal lines.

As someone else mentioned this may also be used to prevent unwanted electrical fields from interfiering with sensitive lifesaftey equipement, like flight or medical instruments. Shielding them would be even better.

There is no point in twisting wires that aren't used in positive/negative pairs, or you won't get the cancelation effect. For standard alarms you would only send the signal wires and a common ground (or negative triggers and a common positive). So the cancellation would not work.

Induced inline noise would be a non-issue anyway.

 

[DidUHearThat? 10+ year member]

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[DidUHearThat? 10+ year member]

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[Snow90 10+ year member]

everyone just settle down.

 

[ameuba10 10+ year member]

i believe idskot and diduhearthat hit the nail on the head. oh and for the guy with the swing set analogy...go and twist you a pair of wires and see if they do the same as a swing set. i kinda see where you were going at with that, but its a different context. twisting wires will not have any negative effects depending on which wires you choose to twist. physically, i say twist all you want. i wouldnt bend them back and forth. that would create breaks in the wire. twisting will not. i would not do something like twist your power wire and your remote wire or something that can create some unwanted noise.

 

[01 S 10 10+ year member]

oh noes! dont buy it! it will break after time!

what a moron.

there is a difference between twisted wire and twisted to all holy fvck wire. as long as you dont do the latter, you should be ok //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

just basic twisting will not put enough force on the wire to harm its jacket or the wire itself

 

[Thewes 10+ year member]

They have a international standard electrical code FOR A REASON. Nautons Law man, For every action thier is a equal and OPOSITE reaction. Twisting wires = Action / Reaction = stress on wires = Wire fraying and breaking over a period of time.

Oh my god please grace us more with your incredible knowledge on physics. What are some other laws our friend Nauton has come up with?

 

[Fiercetimbo17 10+ year member]

1. Figure out how many wire you NEED, then add 3 more a/b/c as spare same length as the rest.2. Label each wire on both ends. 1 = power, 2 = common{always white},3,4,5,6,7,8,9 ext. and you 3 spairs, a b and c.

3. Get some heat shrink tubing, certain size depending on how many wires u got.

4.Pull your labeld wires through, Het Shrink your tubing

5.Route your neat bundle of wires.

6.WIRE THAT ISH UP!!

7. TEST

8.ENJOY!!

That is not how you bench prep an alarm either.

 

[drpeeb 10+ year member]

IT IS BAD, I build 100k electric pannels for REALY BIG FREAKEN MACHINES, I know wires bro.

Fact: I opened up the door threshhold channels in my '05 Nissan Titan, and inside were a number of various wires taped together with electrical tape at the factory. Upon cutting the electrical tape away so I could access and tap into the OEM speaker wires, I found that the speaker wires were twisted.

Opinion: Unless you think Nissan is either in on the "gimmick" of twisted wires for no good reason, or that they somehow don't yet know that twisting wires is bad as you say, I would have to assume twisting speaker wires is a good thing, and I assume it's in order to reduce noise.

 

[jco1385 5,000+ posts]

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i remember this one

 

[BeAlLsTaR13 10+ year member]

are you really arguing about wires? :|

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

are you really arguing about wires? :|

No they aren't. But they were 2 months ago.