Tools For Box Building

[Nut Hair Trick 10+ year member]

I guess...as long as your not doing it for others and charging for it lol.

So, you believe the way a screw is countersunk into an enclosure, makes or breaks that enclosure? You think I would be cheating my customers if I didnt go out and buy a countersinking bit, when I can do it perfectly fine without one? I really think you're over-reaching pal.

 

[pro-rabbit 5,000+ posts]

lol...

 

[Nut Hair Trick 10+ year member]

Ok, thats what I thought

 

[pro-rabbit 5,000+ posts]

Ok, thats what I thought

I think the "make it work" method is fine if your doing it for yourself. I do not agree with using that method when some one is paying for things to be done the right way. Especially when the actual tool is so cheap. This is regardless if the end results.

 

[Nut Hair Trick 10+ year member]

Well, there is your way, and there's my way. Who's to say which way is the "right way". I understand people paying for a product and expecting/deserving quality work. People are not going to be enraged if they see my phillips head countersink which is identical to yours done with the "right bit". My philosophy isnt to "make it work" to half a55 and cheat a customer. This is just an attempt by you to gain customers by saying "look at me" in the forum. I hate to break it to you, but no one is going to look at your enclosure and say, "Hot danm! Look at what that guy did with that countersink bit!"

 

[pro-rabbit 5,000+ posts]

Well, there is your way, and there's my way. Who's to say which way is the "right way". I understand people paying for a product and expecting/deserving quality work. People are not going to be enraged if they see my phillips head countersink which is identical to yours done with the "right bit". My philosophy isnt to "make it work" to half a55 and cheat a customer. This is just an attempt by you to gain customers by saying "look at me" in the forum. I hate to break it to you, but no one is going to look at your enclosure and say, "Hot danm! Look at what that guy did with that countersink bit!"

I have no need to say "hey look at me". Perhaps this is your failed attempt at gaining interest in yourself. I stated what I believe to be proper business ethics and how I do my work. If you don't feel the same way or do the same thing then that is your mind set. It is just not mine.

BTW- Other builders posted up as well saying buy the correct tools.

 

[Nut Hair Trick 10+ year member]

"Man this box sounds like siht, but at least he countersunk his screws the right way! This thang is almost worth keepin!" See, we are nickel and diming here on petty bullshat. This thread is about tips for new people building their first enclosures. This isnt a f'n advertisement thread. I see nothing wrong with doing it either way. You brought up the "charging for it", not me. You even said my method was fine if I were doing it for own enclosure, which this thread is about.

 

[psych0ticnemes1 5,000+ posts]

pro-rabbit, do you jump on everyone's back who does things differently? The man posted a viable option to get around not having the correct bit. No one said it was the best way to do it. As long as the screws are countersunk, does it matter how it got done?

Buying the right tools is the best option, for sure, but not the only option.

 

[pro-rabbit 5,000+ posts]

"Man this box sounds like siht, but at least he countersunk his screws the right way! This thang is almost worth keepin!" See, we are nickel and diming here on petty bullshat. This thread is about tips for new people building their first enclosures. This isnt a f'n advertisement thread. I see nothing wrong with doing it either way. You brought up the "charging for it", not me. You even said my method was fine if I were doing it for own enclosure, which this thread is about.

I still fail to see where I'm "advertising" if I was I would have much more to say about it and business ethics. I did mention it first, but then you took to a whole new level. As for you first remark, it is not always about impressing the customer as it is simply doing it right. I will not get drug into a further debate on this topic as I have proven my point and you just regurgitate the same thing over and over.

As for DIY, I have not seen to many that are worried about counter sinking the first time out. The ones that are, will buy the tool anyway.

 

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pro-rabbit, do you jump on everyone's back who does things differently? The man posted a viable option to get around not having the correct bit. No one said it was the best way to do it. As long as the screws are countersunk, does it matter how it got done?
Buying the right tools is the best option, for sure, but not the only option.

I was refering to a customer basis only. Nothing else. I said it was fine for a DYI situation. Perhaps you should reread what I posted prior to making out like I'm the bad guy. I'm also not the only one who said it was best buy the tool.

 

[Nut Hair Trick 10+ year member]

Thanks psych0. And let me just say... if I ran across one of these cheap bits in the store, while there to buy something else, hell, I'd probably buy it. But honestly, I'm not going to make a special trip and spend more on gas than the bit is worth itself. I'd really like to end this pissing match but hell, we both like the last word!

 

[Nut Hair Trick 10+ year member]

I still fail to see where I'm "advertising" if I was I would have much more to say about it and business ethics. I did mention it first, but then you took to a whole new level. As for you first remark, it is not always about impressing the customer as it is simply doing it right. I will not get drug into a further debate on this topic as I have proven my point and you just regurgitate the same thing over and over.

As for DIY, I have not seen to many that are worried about counter sinking the first time out. The ones that are, will buy the tool anyway.

 

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I was refering to a customer basis only. Nothing else. I said it was fine for a DYI situation. Perhaps you should reread what I posted prior to making out like I'm the bad guy. I'm also not the only one who said it was best buy the tool.

You were the first to bring up "charging for it". Says the guy with "I can build custom enclosures and ship them anywere... PM me for details." in BIG letters in his sig. That's advertising.

 

[pro-rabbit 5,000+ posts]

Thanks psych0. And let me just say... if I ran across one of these cheap bits in the store, while there to buy something else, hell, I'd probably buy it. But honestly, I'm not going to make a special trip and spend more on gas than the bit is worth itself. I'd really like to end this pissing match but hell, we both like the last word!

I agree with making a trip to the store just for that, as it would not be worth it. However, if your at the hardware store look for one. You can get them very very cheap or spend a few extra bucks and a quick change version for quicker building(I think those are $20 bucks).

Lets keep this DIY then with out including customer basis..if that is the case then they will do what is needed to make it work which is the whole idea of DIYers in the first place.

So with that in mind, if you are using a thicker carpet then the countersink becomes less important anyway as the thick backing and longer carpet will help hide what ever imperfections the builder may have. If you are using a thinner carpet(trunk liner perhaps) then the builder will need to be more careful with countersinking as the the screw will be felt/seen.

 

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You were the first to bring up "charging for it". Says the guy with "I can build custom enclosures and ship them anywere... PM me for details." in BIG letters in his sig. That's advertising.

And having a vendor section is Advertising lol //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif I'm allowed to have that in my sig. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[Nut Hair Trick 10+ year member]

I agree with making a trip to the store just for that, as it would not be worth it. However, if your at the hardware store look for one. You can get them very very cheap or spend a few extra bucks and a quick change version for quicker building(I think those are $20 bucks).
Lets keep this DIY then with out including customer basis..if that is the case then they will do what is needed to make it work which is the whole idea of DIYers in the first place.

So with that in mind, if you are using a thicker carpet then the countersink becomes less important anyway as the thick backing and longer carpet will help hide what ever imperfections the builder may have. If you are using a thinner carpet(trunk liner perhaps) then the builder will need to be more careful with countersinking as the the screw will be felt/seen.

 

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And having a vendor section is Advertising lol //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif I'm allowed to have that in my sig. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

I agree with what you said about the carpet thickness. I also respect and understand you having that in your sig. I have no problems with advertising at all. For some, that's their only source of income. But don't come to a DIY thread and tell someone they shouldnt charge for their methods, all the while promoting your wonderful business ethics, combined with what is in your sig and act like you don't know where you were advertising. That is not what the thread was about. I'm done

 

[pro-rabbit 5,000+ posts]

But don't come to a DIY thread and tell someone they shouldnt charge for their methods, all the while promoting your wonderful business ethics, combined with what is in your sig and act like you don't know where you were advertising. That is not what the thread was about. I'm done

I posted that the tool is very cheap and that anyone who is really worried about it would buy the tool anyway so our conversation is ridiculous anyway. I still fail to see your point in saying that I'm in this thread to advertise which I'm not. Is it in my sig, yes. However, in this thread and per our conversation I am saying buy the tool. It is very cheap and will save you time and a good deal of effort. Is that not the point of DIY in the first place? To save time and money?

 

[Nut Hair Trick 10+ year member]

yep