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"... I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,'..."

~ Thomas Jefferson

"....Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined...." ~Patrick Henry

.....such simple statements only fools would have trouble interpreting..

 
"... I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,'..."~ Thomas Jefferson

"....Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined...." ~Patrick Henry

.....such simple statements only fools would have trouble interpreting..
You are making yourself look like a fool...

"make no law respecting establishment of religion" ... yet they pass laws that religion must be taught alongside science in school. You really do make yourself look more and more ignorant.

 
Ignorance...you have it in spades. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif
what's ignorant about his statement? it's a completely valid point... if you guys want to preach about your kids being able to push christianity on other children, dont get offended if another kid pushes satanic beliefs on your children... simple

 
[quote name='mast240']i dont think anyone here is saying that a child shouldnt have the option to pray on their own in school... even i completely agree that it is their right. What we have a major problem with, is religion being taught in PUBLIC schools that are funded with our tax dollars (and yes, this could even be the entire class saying the lords prayer every morning)... this is what we are talking about. I would never try to take away someone else's right to their own beliefs... the only thing that is being stated here, is not to throw them onto other people... and dont use them as a blanket argument, to have others' rights taken away.

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@quackhead... you continue to show your ignorance and simple mind here[/QUOTE]

...so to you, this just comes down to how u want u tax $$ spent and how I want mine spent...pretty simple concept, I think Soldiers are way under paid, VA benefits and treatments need serious attention, Public Schools should raise their standards instead of continually lowering them to accommodate a growing number of unqualified teachers....I had to teach my kid cursive handwriting techniques...my kid brings home a 66 grade and it is passing???....no homework, because they cannot bring their books home????....2 months without teaching?? btw, I hope my kid someday appreciates the 2 hrs/day she does Algebra during the summer months.

...and you continually bash me....why? Because I believe in Creation...I do not hold to the big bang theory, or most of the other science fiction crap folks are shoving on my kid in school...She comes home freaking out about Planet X her teacher told her about...she comes home freaking out because she had to witness her Social Studies teacher (woman) in a verbally abusing argument with her PE coach (woman) because the PE coach was cheating on the Social Studies Teacher with the Vice-Principal(man).........WTF?
 
what's ignorant about his statement? it's a completely valid point... if you guys want to preach about your kids being able to push christianity on other children, dont get offended if another kid pushes satanic beliefs on your children... simple
why do you continue to talk like this, how is having the freedom to express a religion "pushing"...how is my kid praying, pushing ANYTHING on yours??..if your child wished to stand there and stare at the wall for a moment, while my kid prays...what does it matter, aside from teaching your kid to respect for others' freedom to do so....It is the "Pushing out religion" from schools that must be stopped....which is why this whole thread is a no win situation.

 
This is one drop in the bucket of why many Americans are getting fed up with our Govt. intrusion into our lives.
Bullshit. The Supreme Court didn't take away your right to silently pray in school, they took away the school's ability to hold a class praying session. How aren't you getting this?

And how stupid do you have to be to think that because RAM brought up race as a joke that race is somehow an issue with me?

 
...so to you, this just comes down to how u want u tax $$ spent and how I want mine spent...pretty simple concept, I think Soldiers are way under paid, VA benefits and treatments need serious attention, Public Schools should raise their standards instead of continually lowering them to accommodate a growing number of unqualified teachers....I had to teach my kid cursive handwriting techniques...my kid brings home a 66 grade and it is passing???....no homework, because they cannot bring their books home????....2 months without teaching?? btw, I hope my kid someday appreciates the 2 hrs/day she does Algebra during the summer months.
...and you continually bash me....why? Because I believe in Creation...I do not hold to the big bang theory, or most of the other science fiction crap folks are shoving on my kid in school...She comes home freaking out about Planet X her teacher told her about...she comes home freaking out because she had to witness her Social Studies teacher (woman) in a verbally abusing argument with her PE coach (woman) because the PE coach was cheating on the Social Studies Teacher with the Vice-Principal(man).........WTF?
Wait, so science that has been established for hundreds of years, tested, proven correct by facts and proof, is sci-fi, but a several thousand year old book written by....... Who? People who claimed they were prophets -- claiming that some man in the sky sculpted the universe isn't? You truly are the stupidest person I've ever met, online or otherwise.

 
Bullshit. The Supreme Court didn't take away your right to silently pray in school, they took away the school's ability to hold a class praying session. How aren't you getting this?
And how stupid do you have to be to think that because RAM brought up race as a joke that race is somehow an issue with me?
It is the involvement of the Supreme court in the issue that i consider unconstitutional...I did not assume race was an issue with you... I asked

 
It is the involvement of the Supreme court in the issue that i consider unconstitutional...I did not assume race was an issue with you... I asked
The Supreme Court didn't interfere with religious freedom, it interfered with religious establishment taking over schools, and influencing children who are not of the same religion. It offends most people with different beliefs when schools force students to say prayers.

You can be mad all you want at science teachers for teaching science, but science isn't going away. Your fairytales have nothing to do with reality, so please keep them out of textbooks.

 
The Supreme Court didn't interfere with religious freedom, it interfered with religious establishment taking over schools, and influencing children who are not of the same religion. It offends most people with different beliefs when schools force students to say prayers.
You can be mad all you want at science teachers for teaching science, but science isn't going away. Your fairytales have nothing to do with reality, so please keep them out of textbooks.
Well said

 
Wait, so science that has been established for hundreds of years, tested, proven correct by facts and proof, is sci-fi, but a several thousand year old book written by....... Who? People who claimed they were prophets -- claiming that some man in the sky sculpted the universe isn't? You truly are the stupidest person I've ever met, online or otherwise.
touche'...I did not proclaim that 10,000 years is the maximum age of anything...you did. I do believe God created all things. I understand the Holy Bible is a collection of books written by common men (some of them ex-murderers and thieves) based upon their experiences with God....and some Sciences which were once considered established has been proved false....happens all the time as we evolve consciously. I believe we share certain genetics with other species..it would make perfect sense from a creationist point of view...considering we, as Humans are the custodians of this world. But to say that you or I swam out of the ocean and stood upright and walked away into the sunset...in whatever time frame you wish..sounds preposterous to me. Especially to say it all happened by chance.

 
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