not here to play games .......actually its pretty stupid to argue on a forum....but wtf, half of your posts are pointless and arent even speaking from experience....great you bought a set of type r's and love them, but its not the perfect subwoofer for everyone....i have a set to but am i on every single type r post preaching about how spectacular they are??..no....you also seem to talk out of your a$$ way too much(you work at an audio shop, your 152 score)..but either way im done arguing with you, so this will be my last post having to do with anything in this thread that we are arguing about......forget about everything and move on....was nice talking to you