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Was 911 an inside job?

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I can post links too! http://www.geocities.com/debunking911/index.htm
So now your arguing that since bush's reaction was calm and collected, that he is behind the attacks... your really running low on ideas arent you?

I guess you wanted him to jump up in the air and start screaming, with tears rolling down his face? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif
no but i would expect him to act as a leader. a leader leads in time of crisis, or at least wants to know whats going on. i notice you make no reference to any of those links, which bring up some pretty serious questions. the biggest red flag raised is those stock options, which can't be denied by anyone. who was sure enough something was going to happen in a couple of weeks to invest millions of dollars in it? why didnt they investigate?

if you think we did not know about pearl harbor in advance, you're dead wrong. its even admitted that we sunk multiple japanese submarines outside the harbor hours before the attack began, and the base was not put on alert. they had decoded japanese messages in advance and knew they were going to attack.

we can do this all day. you can post your links, i can post mine. you think mine are bullshit, i think yours are bullshit. im going to do what i should have done a long time ago, and leave this thread. i've made my points perfectly clear. so proceed to gloat about your triumphant debunking of questions you refuse to answer or even address and go on and on. i am done.

 
The difference is that my links are from experts in the field are yours are not.

You've clearly lost the scientific argument, and now your practically reading lines from Michael Moore.

 
if you think we did not know about pearl harbor in advance, you're dead wrong. its even admitted that we sunk multiple japanese submarines outside the harbor hours before the attack began, and the base was not put on alert. they had decoded japanese messages in advance and knew they were going to attack.

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Pearl harbor is a completely different subject than 9/11, your bringing it up to point out how evil our government is, which in case forgot, gives you the freedoms to contrive these outlandish theories in the first place.

You can't prove 9/11 was faked, so now you move on to pearl harbor, how clever.

 
Everyone with HALF-A-BRAIN knows that 911 was pulled off by Usama Bin Laden.

A fatter version of the MAN HIMSELF admitted as much on CNN. Sure, he was right-handed in the video despite being left-handed in real life (ambidextrous? Hello?) and sure he was wearing a gold ring despite Islamic law and all that but he ADMITTED IT. His nose was three times too fat? Can’t Muslims get plastic surgery? Is that only for you precious Americans?

I don’t buy his denials immediately after the event, reported in the BBC. The interview in Ummat in which he states:

I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. Whoever committed the act of 11 September are not the friends of the American people. I have already said that we are against the American system, not against its people, whereas in these attacks, the common American people have been killed. According to my information, the death toll is much higher than what the U.S. Government has stated. But the Bush Administration does not want the panic to spread. The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; the people who are a part of the U.S. system, but are dissenting against it. Or those who are working for some other system; persons who want to make the present century as a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity…

…are obviously a pathetic attempt to distance himself from his dastardly, dastardly deeds.

Furthermore, there’s nothing wrong with the ringleader of the attacks snorting coke and wearing a crucifix and eating pork and banging strippers and yelling “f*ck God”. You ever tried abstaining from bacon? Or coke for that matter? Are Muslims supposed to be immaculate? Are they not allowed to wear crucifixes too?

Atta attended a flight school where DEA agents found 43 pounds of heroin aboard the Lear jet of Huffman Aviation’s Wallace J. Hilliard? Atta roamed the country at will despite being on the CIA’s watchlist? Are you suggesting the CIA is involved in drug trafficking? Their website for kid’s CLEARLY EXPLAINS that this is not the case. Remember, we’re talking about trillions, not GAZILLIONS, of dollars. If it was gazillions – maybe – but mere trillions?

"Certain investigations were being quashed, let's say per State Department's request, because it would have affected certain foreign relations [or] affected certain business relations with foreign organizations," (FBI agent Sibel Edmonds)

f*ck Sibel Edmonds. She’s obviously a closet liberal out to tarnish the Bush administrations’ good name.

One more word on Atta: I don’t give a rat’s *** if several witnesses reported him on one of Jack Abramoff’s casino boats one week before 911. Ever heard of a last fling? Besides, I don’t believe those allegations about Abramoff being a Zionist gangster. That judge was a liberal. Larry Silverstein hangs out with Netanyahu. Does that make him a Zionist too?

The fact that (thank God) Atta’s suitcase was mistakenly left behind at the airport – complete with a Koran, Boeing flight manual and Will – clearly implicates him in the attack. Ok, so he forgot that the will would most likely be destroyed in the hellish inferno he was about to create. Satam Al Suqami’s passport was found AT THE CRIME SCENE, a few blocks from WTC. Clearly they had advanced technology allowing these materials to be fireproofed.

Don’t forget, the head of the NSA, Michael Hayden, CLEARLY stated that Al-Qaeda has more advanced communication technologies than the USA. This is obviously due to lack of funding. If we had given the NSA and other intelligence agencies proper funding before the event they could have stopped the hijackers instead of just monitoring their every movement.

You conspiracy theorists give America a bad name.

Ask David Hortowitz: neither the Maine, nor the Gulf of Tonkin, nor Gladio nor Pearl Harbour nor Operation Northwoods nor the Lavon Affair nor Russia’s FSB bombings nor La Belle Discoteque prove anything about 911. THERE’S A FIRST TIME FOR EVERYTHING. Casus Beli? What am I Latin? I HATE Latin music.

Molten metal in the rubbish a month after 911? Have you ever considered the possibility that there was a volcano beneath the towers? There’s lots of volcanoes ALL OVER THE GLOBE which produce MOLTEN MAGMA. Moreover, even it WTC7 fell at free-fall speed it doesn’t AUTOMATICALLY follow that they “pulled” it. I have it on good authority that Bin Laden, in addition to having more advanced communications technology, has perfected an electro-magnetic pulse weapon which INSTANTEOUSLY destroys central steel columns and causes them to collapse like a house of cards.

If Guiliani had let people examine the debris rather than shipping it off to Asia, other TERRORISTS could have REVERSE-ENGINEERED this technology for further attacks.

Mysterious power downs before 911? Bomb-sniffing dogs removed? Marvin Bush head of security detail until September 10th, 2001? You people make me sick. You have no patriotism or trust in our elected officials (I don’t buy the nonsense about purging black voters from voter lists).

Some have claimed that the hijacker’s had no skills.

For instance:

Mohammed Atta: "His attention span was zero."

Khalid Al-Mihdhar: "We didn't kick him out, but he didn't live up to our standards."

Marwan Al-Shehhi: “He was dropped because of his limited English and incompetence at the controls.”

Salem Al-Hazmi: "We advised him to quit after two lessons.”

Hani Hanjour: "His English was horrible, and his mechanical skills were even worse. It was like he had hardly even ever driven a car. I’m still to this day amazed that he could have flown into the Pentagon. He could not fly at all.”

This was clearly a case of racism, just like the anti-semites who try to point out “dancing Israelis” and the like.

Hani was a HIGHLY qualified pilot.

How else can you explain the fact that he achieved the “:aerodynamic impossibility of flying a large commercial jetliner 20 feet above the ground at over 400 MPH. A discussion on ground effect energy, tip vortex compression, downwash sheet reaction, wake turbulence, and jetblast effects are beyond the scope of this article (the 100,000-lb jetblast alone would have blown whole semi-trucks off the roads.)

Let it suffice to say that it is physically impossible to fly a 200,000-lb airliner 20 feet above the ground at 400 MPH.

The author, a pilot and aeronautical engineer, challenges any pilot in the world to do so in any large high-speed aircraft that has a relatively low wing-loading (such as a commercial jet). I.e”

[the author, who fancies himself a pilot as well, is clearly jealous]

I’d also like to comment on the war games, which some conspiracy whackos claim “went live”.

Let me explain something to you: the government is here to protect us. The fact there were about a dozen drills going on that day, some of which involved scenarios of “crashing jet airliners into buildings” and some of which involved “drone airplanes” proves absolutely nothing except the fact that the Bush administration was in the midst of preparing for what they thought MAY have been forthcoming; in other words, they were protecting us.

It was a tragic irony that these noble efforts hopelessly confused would-be responders and disenabled them from distinguishing between “real life or drill”.

The worst part about these tinfoil hat conspiracy theories is that no one is able to come up with a plausible motive.

That 2.3 trillion was announced “missing” from the Pentagon on September 10th, that put options betting on the fall of UA stocks scored certain investors millions of dollars, that gold beneath the WTC disappeared, that the paper trails of numerous Wall Street investigations went up in smoke, that the opium trade was reinstated by the invasion of Afghanistan (the Taliban squelched it during their reign), that the pipeline which they also rejected was able to start construction, that the patriot act was passed, that Bush was able to invade Iraq and secure their oil reserves, that Bush is able to do pretty much whatever he pleases, these DO NOT constitute motive.

Even if they did (which they DON’T), an operation of this sort could never be pulled off. It would have required at least 30 INDIVIDUALS and the complicity of the press, THE FOURTH ESTATE.

Some say that the Manhatten project was kept secret even though it involved a hundred thousand people. Others that MKULTRA, ARTICHOKE, PAPERCLIP, COINTELPRO, the TUSKEGEE SYPHILIS EXPERIMENT AND COUNTLESS OTHER “black ops” perpetrated by intelligence agencies against American citizens were kept secret for decades until the cursed FOIA forced partial disclosure.

This is true, but you’re forgetting one thing: those ops took place during the cold war. Our leaders HAD to sacrifice individual freedom for the greater good, otherwise there would be no greater good to speak of.

Nowadays, our rulers are much less duplicitous, much less power hungry and above all, much more ethical.

People need conspiracy theories to make them feel comfortable in a world that makes no sense.

Bin Laden hates our freedoms. And anyone who thinks differently is a pinko-commie TRAITOR.

 
Did you just post something contradicting yourself? what was the purpose of that?

Its obviously rittled with sarcasm.

BTW Did you happen to find out whatever happened to all those passengers? hmm?

 
Did you just post something contradicting yourself? what was the purpose of that? Its obviously rittled with sarcasm.

BTW Did you happen to find out whatever happened to all those passengers? hmm?
Its hard to convince people that are mentally retarded, as you have probally found out. Just ignore these idiots, like the rest of america does, let them have their fun, no one takes them seriously.

 
Now your arguing that since there are questions people pose, which have zero evidence behind them, that experts should analyze their ramblings line by line? WHY? You guys cant even answer my simple posed question, which disqualifies any theory about demolition.
I believe the official stories to be true because as I have clearly shown, every respected expert has proven that this is the most logical explanation. No little mpeg video or "what if's" are going to convince anyone.

I love how you preach "free thinking", but you all subscribe to the same conspiracy sites, and use rehashed talking points from propaganda videos and papers.

You call these questions scientific revisioning, yet, science revolves around evidence, and you hardly have any at all.

Your being incredibly stubborn and obtuse, and in fact changing your stance from "the terror attacks were fake" to "the story needs revising".

This isnt a scientific law, its an event in American history that happened 5 years ago.
Actually my revision of the story brings me to the conclusion that the terror attacks were fake but hey you couldnt put that together.

I dont subscribe to propoganda, conspiracy sites or anything like that. Im subscribed to NONE. Science does not revolve around evidence until a hypotheses is created, accepted, and research begins. Obviously this is in the research phase.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

 
You say that since so much of this forum thinks its fake (which is hardly true), that that makes it fake... I fail to see any logic behind that, since the overwhelming majority of Americans are with me on this (not to mention every eye witness there). Also, this is a ****ing car stereo forum //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif .
Families know what really happened, your not doing them any favors by slandering the gov't and using their deaths to get attention. sorry.

BTW, I love how you called me childish for using personal attacks, but then you go and call me ignorent at the beggining of your posts. In the educated world we call people like you hypocrites
Well since this is a nation wide forum i believe it pulls peaople from all over the country. What a better place for a public opinion poll than from a national forum be it car audio, 4wheeling, gaming, or anything of the sort. I did not say because people here think its fake its fake. You obviously cant read because if you could you would see i said in reply to your thoughts saying n oone believes this grabage that obviously people do believe it because people are backing me up on here. But hey these people are nobodys right because they dont have links to reports from guys with PHD's and because they are against the govt in some way.

Dont speak for the families. it only makes oyu look stupid. Not even you knows what really happend because so much of it has been covered up.

And calling someone ignorant isnt a personal attack it is a judgment based on the content of your postings.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif

 
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