The Great 15" Challenge

I know magazines, websites, and testing firms have done comparison and shootout tests for years.

And it hasnt been anybody's business what happens to the product except for the tester and the supplier.

 
time yes,,,, money not as much, one sub will pay for is work he has to put in,,no affecnce to matt but i dont like some of the things he comes up with, he will just sell most of the subs over time to ppl becuse he cant put 20 mixed matched subs in a ride, and over is caraudioclassified.com as i recall it the memebers dam near payed at lease haft for the term lab,, so baseically he just sucks money out of every one in my opion
I paid near $500 out of my own pocket for the TL, i was taking donations but really just had Steve from RD and Spy from Spy designs put in. So I take it pretty offensivly that you think im ******* money outta people. I offer some great deals on all the sites I am on, every year I have 70+ Stinger batteries I sell way way way way below cost.

and i saw the the subs you recive will pay for mdf and gass, i dont see 10 + subs if sold over time, add ing to a few hundred in bills and the time it takes to test,, shouldent be counted you should be doing it on free time,, if you state that the subs will pay for 2 weeks of testing that refers to you only doing it to make a Buck.!
I understand where your coming from, now let me show you where im coming from.

20 subs, 9 boxes, 3 test in each box.

Lets just figure an hour to get each sub in each box and run all three tests.

20x9 = 180 hours

I know it sounds ridiclous but this includes watching the O-scope and clamp so I can adjust the gains to make the test as even as possible. Its not a simple two second task.

This is a long job and a pain in the *** to be frank, but I offered up to do this because I am here to help to car audio community. I have never ripped anyone off, I have helped tons of people and have tons of friends here. Im kinda shocked to hear this from you specially after we have talked on the phone several times.

Also just so people get an idea. Only two companies have allowed to keep onto the subs at this point, three of the 4 or 5 subs will be going to pay the box builders as they are putting there money and time on this also. this is taking 18 pieces of MDF sheet to make the 9 boxes. That leaves me with a sub or two for my estimated 180hours of time put into this.

Btw for people who know me, i work two full time jobs over summer at $15/$20 an hour.

1350+1800= $2150 thats what I would make before taxes at my places of work.

I guarentee you no matter which sub/s I held on to it would not pay for that or anything close to that.

Yeah I dont really understand why you are keeping the subs after it is over? And talking about selling them even before the test has begun? Sounds pretty **** tacky.
Some companies understand how much time and effort this takes from me and this is their way of contributing to it.

How about this I will make you a deal. Build 9 double layered boxes, get an O-scope, TL, DMM, and Fluke Clamp. I will send you 5 free subs if you do two weeks of testing on it. I want all writen up results in excel format, multiple threads, pictures, videos, and up to date progress emailed to me. If you can meet those requirements and feel its worth a few hundred bucks worth of subs, then I applaud you but realistically I hope you can see where I am coming from.

I pay out my dues, I have helped tons and tons of people out, I honestly dont care if I make a dime off of this, as long as I can cover all my costs, this is an experiment that I seek results from, and that is what i plan to get.

 
No one deserves to earn a dime for these "tests". There is no real usable information being shared here.
That would be your opinion though. It would appear the sub manufacturers feel differently otherwise they wouldn't offer up product. Maybe its just the advertising of having their driver in the test, who knows. Either way, the sub companies are able to make their own decisions on how they handle their business.

 
I fully acknowledge the companies right to let him do what he pleases.

What I object to is the notion that he is owed something for this. He decides the tests are necessary, he encourages the company to send him products for his "testing", and then he collects a profit? For what?

But as I said, if a company chooses to do this, it's completely at their discretion and not ours.

 
I fully acknowledge the companies right to let him do what he pleases.
What I object to is the notion that he is owed something for this. He decides the tests are necessary, he encourages the company to send him products for his "testing", and then he collects a profit? For what?

But as I said, if a company chooses to do this, it's completely at their discretion and not ours.
Once again, your opinion, but what it comes down to is the sub manufacturers who know how to run their business have decided what they will give to the tester, which you obviously understand. I'm sorry it twists your tit that the manufacturers who are the ones that get to choose how to run their business disagree with you.

There are valid criticisms on this test, there always will be, this one is just being bitchy though

/tangent

 
I fully acknowledge the companies right to let him do what he pleases.
What I object to is the notion that he is owed something for this. He decides the tests are necessary, he encourages the company to send him products for his "testing", and then he collects a profit? For what?

But as I said, if a company chooses to do this, it's completely at their discretion and not ours.
Please know what your talking about before you speak.

I was contacted by a few companies and asked to do the tests. I then contacted a few more to see if they had interests. Any company i have contacted will be getting their subs back, honestly I will send all subs back and post all tracking numbers if it makes you stop your *****ing and moaning, I dont see you do anything but that on here.

 
Fu ck all the morons on this site. All they do is ***** and complain about people actually doing something productive with their life's. If everyone did just that we would get absolutely nothing done unless you count being an ignorant *** hole getting something accomplished. Which in that case you have more problems then staying on the internet all day pretending to be cool.

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